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Postby nocera » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:27 pm

By the way, came across this 1949 Republican billboard in my Instagram feed today. This billboard was in the Hill District. Seemed appropriate after Trump's tweet.

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Postby Pavel Bure » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:33 pm

The most powerful Biden commercial I’ve seen so far was detailing his upbringing in PA, the death of his wife, and the love he has for his kids. It was really effective in stripping away the career politician and showing the human underneath. Now that IMO was a really good ad.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:35 pm

Did it talk about him lying about the guy who hit his wife's car for 40 years?

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:38 pm

Oh well, must not be very important.


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Postby King Colby » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:20 pm

Just another exhibit of why the 2 party system sucks. Neither party wants this package to get thru prior to November. That way they can both blame each other. We all lose.

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Postby count2infinity » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:24 pm

Just another exhibit of why the 2 party system sucks. Neither party wants this package to get thru prior to November. That way they can both blame each other. We all lose.
I don't think it's neither party wants the package to get through... it's that they want THEIR package to get through that way they can say they are the ones that helped the American worker. I haven't read enough to know where the sticking points are, but this could/should be an easy bipartisan plan. Should be...

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Postby CBear3 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:54 pm

The GOP package is half of the spend they offered during the summer ($500m, versus $1t, versus the $3.5t the Dems wanted)
-It's $300 for unemployment, versus $400
-No money for state or local governments
-No eviction security
-Shields schools and businesses from lawsuits over opening up

The problem is the idea that passing one bill is enough. There's no guarantee that if they agree on the bare bones that the GOP will sit and talk about the next steps Dems feel are necessary. So you have to have a compromise bill to wrap it all up which they'll never agree on.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:59 pm

we may not be 100th in discrimination but we certainly are 100th in functioning legislatures

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Postby nocera » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:04 pm

United States: First in Friendship, Ninth in Obesity

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:18 pm



I don't think it actually did. People just honestly believed that Trump was more trustworthy than Clinton. hard to really pin that down, but that meter has shifted on it's head in favor of Biden.

This is all going to go back to whether Trump gets enough of those typical GOP voters to come home.
Clinton was completely unlikeable so that might be true. Still, feels like Trump is going back to the "wall" and muslim well here.
is biden likeable? He is a senile corpse with a track record of failed policies.
I don't think people see him like that outside of political junkie world. He seems more like a grandpa or something.
I think most just see him as your creepy uncle, that always invades your personal space and says awkward things, that you have to invite to family gatherings.
This can apply to both Biden and Trump

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Postby count2infinity » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:21 pm

The GOP package is half of the spend they offered during the summer ($500m, versus $1t, versus the $3.5t the Dems wanted)
-It's $300 for unemployment, versus $400
-No money for state or local governments
-No eviction security
-Shields schools and businesses from lawsuits over opening up

The problem is the idea that passing one bill is enough. There's no guarantee that if they agree on the bare bones that the GOP will sit and talk about the next steps Dems feel are necessary. So you have to have a compromise bill to wrap it all up which they'll never agree on.
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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:57 pm

The share of third party vote was high in 2016.
Jill Stein got more votes than Trump's margins in WI and WI, and close to the same number as the margin in PA.

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Postby Troy Loney » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:05 pm



Joe Biden exposed as president of antifa.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:10 pm


Ah yes, appealing to the casual racism of suburbanites. Hey, it worked in 2016.
I don't think it actually did. People just honestly believed that Trump was more trustworthy than Clinton. hard to really pin that down, but that meter has shifted on it's head in favor of Biden.

This is all going to go back to whether Trump gets enough of those typical GOP voters to come home.
And a lot of moderates that took a chance on him last time. I think that's where he loses this.
This is basically the only hope I have for Biden to win the election, however, I have seen a shift in my Libertarian friends recently who are now voting for Jorgensen instead of Biden. That has me worried.
It’s just an inherent flaw in the US voting system (first past the post). Voted for non Biden are effectively all votes for Trump

Which sucks. You should be able to vote for who you like but there’s also pressure to vote for someone that actually has a chance to win


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Postby Shyster » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:35 pm

Both of the main parties will preach that they want to make sure everyone can vote. Unless people want to vote for a third party. Then they file lawsuits to knock the candidates off the ballot. In this case, it's the Democrats suing to knock the presidential candidate for the Green Party off the ballot:

Democrats appeal Green Party case to Pennsylvania high court
https://apnews.com/522d38d81a44019588d86be8466dc9c3

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:41 pm

Literally zero people would have cared if he said yes.


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Postby grunthy » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:54 pm

Why couldn't he just say, yes he uses it for notes or something?

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Postby willeyeam » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:18 pm

Regardless - this is politics today. So effing stupid. No actual policies, plans, debating merits of those.. teleprompters and he said/she said comments the president may have made. We suck

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Postby Pavel Bure » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:37 pm

Regardless - this is politics today. So effing stupid. No actual policies, plans, debating merits of those.. teleprompters and he said/she said comments the president may have made. We suck
Seriously, the fact that so many votes come down to “I like/dislike this person.” Is crazy. New rule! The parties only get to post their platforms and that’s what we vote on!

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:44 pm

I could be talked into moving to a more parliamentary model.

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Postby grunthy » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:45 pm

Regardless - this is politics today. So effing stupid. No actual policies, plans, debating merits of those.. teleprompters and he said/she said comments the president may have made. We suck
Seriously, the fact that so many votes come down to “I like/dislike this person.” Is crazy. New rule! The parties only get to post their platforms and that’s what we vote on!
I have wanted people to vote on policies with no name or party attached to it, then your ballot is cast for the person that most aligns to your answers.

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Postby Kaiser » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:17 pm

Why don't we vote on policy and tell the figureheads to get a job

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:41 pm

You know what I hate? How every local election is partisan. Like coroner, county auditor, and sheriff are all run by the two party system. It’s dumb.

Our county sheriff ran as a Democrat, and got primaried by a former deputy. He lost a close race because most of his supporters could only vote in one primary, and voted in the GOP primary.

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Postby willeyeam » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:57 pm

Man, Biden must have some power


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