Politics And Current Events

[Troy Loney]

he lowered corporate tax rates.. one may argue that any republican pres was going to get that done, but he did it so he does get the credit there

Obama wanted to lower the corporate tax rate to the 25-27 range I think. It was probably lack of initiative from either party in congress to do that during his presidency which kept that from ever happening.

[Kaiser]

But he totally dropped the ball on COVID (I think anyone would have)

Most of his ball dropping was because he refused to admit that anything bad could happen during his tenure. Exactly the opposite of what you want in a leader, Driving his diehards to reject any brain growth that separates them from lesser primates. If anyone would have f***ed the dog that hard, America deserves to crash and burn for the good of the planet.

[grunthy]

But he totally dropped the ball on COVID (I think anyone would have)

Most of his ball dropping was because he refused to admit that anything bad could happen during his tenure. Exactly the opposite of what you want in a leader, Driving his diehards to reject any brain growth that separates them from lesser primates. If anyone would have f***ed the dog that hard, America deserves to crash and burn for the good of the planet.

Go relax and take a breather.

[NAN]

But he totally dropped the ball on COVID (I think anyone would have)

Most of his ball dropping was because he refused to admit that anything bad could happen during his tenure. Exactly the opposite of what you want in a leader, Driving his diehards to reject any brain growth that separates them from lesser primates. If anyone would have f***ed the dog that hard, America deserves to crash and burn for the good of the planet.

I agree, which is why I soured on him with the way he handled COVID. I think regardless who would have been a leader, there would be deaths, hospitalization, shutdowns, econcomic hits, etc. That is where I am getting with that. It's the way he handled the situation, causing more divide in something this critical, something that you would figure would be a common enemy to EVERYONE regardless of political view, etc, that is where I jumped off.

And to answer c2i, I'm not voting this year. Because I don't believe in Biden either. Maybe Biden 20 years ago, but not now.

[nocera]

I don't really understand abstaining from voting, especially on a presidential election. No candidate will ever be perfect or exactly share your vision for the country. You vote for the person that's going to take you closest to where you want to be. By not voting, you're saying you're good with either option. Is that really true?

[NAN]

I don't really understand abstaining from voting, especially on a presidential election. No candidate will ever be perfect or exactly share your vision for the country. You vote for the person that's going to take you closest to where you want to be. By not voting, you're saying you're good with either option. Is that really true?

I'm indifferent on both. I know there is never a "perfect" candidate. But I can typically find one I'd rather have in like you said.

Personally, I think I'm just sick of politics in general. I'm just numb.

[nocera]

Source of the post Personally, I think I'm just sick of politics in general. I'm just numb.

I feel you there.

[willeyeam]

he lowered corporate tax rates.. one may argue that any republican pres was going to get that done, but he did it so he does get the credit there

Obama wanted to lower the corporate tax rate to the 25-27 range I think. It was probably lack of initiative from either party in congress to do that during his presidency which kept that from ever happening.

But he didn't

[tifosi77]

...or is he just not very forthcoming on any particular stances...?

At least I know you know where France is.

(Admittedly, you got dragged right away for this naked and shameless Hamilref right away, time zones be damned. Also, I applaud you, sir. I cannot escape a single day without doing this sort of thing myself.)

[tifosi77]

This time I’m curious what the excuse will be, but it seems that Kamala Harris will be the scapegoat.

Is Kamala D. Harris a liberal extremist or a snub to liberal extremists? The GOP can’t decide.

Trump backers’ response to Harris’s selection has been somewhat dizzying. They have mostly painted her as the kind of radical that McDaniel did, even labeling her a socialist. But as with the man whose ticket Harris is joining, they have offered mixed messages by also suggesting she is a disappointment to Sanders supporters and even a tool of Wall Street.

Fox News’s prime-time airwaves on Tuesday night were full of dire warnings about Harris’s supposed liberal hostile takeover of the party. But on Tucker Carlson’s show, he asserted she was, in fact, an entirely principle-free politician who would bow to big business.

“[Susan] Rice is a hardened partisan,” Carlson said of another top VP contender who was passed over. “But she is not stupid, and more to the point, Rice has sincere beliefs whether you like them or not — and we don’t. But Kamala D. Harris is the opposite of that. Harris may be the single most transactional human being in America.”

Carlson added: “If you’re choosing a presidential nominee, you think you’d want someone with a built-in constituency, a base of passionate voters you can count on Election Day. But as it turns out, that is the last thing the leaders of the modern Democratic Party wanted. They already had a candidate like that, in fact, his name was Bernie Sanders, and they did everything they could to stop him.”

Carlson concluded: “Voters may not like Kamala D. Harris, but Wall Street does — just in case you’re wondering who is actually in charge.”

[grunthy]

I don't really understand abstaining from voting, especially on a presidential election. No candidate will ever be perfect or exactly share your vision for the country. You vote for the person that's going to take you closest to where you want to be. By not voting, you're saying you're good with either option. Is that really true?

If neither option gets you closer, then why would you vote for either?

[Troy Loney]

This time I’m curious what the excuse will be, but it seems that Kamala Harris will be the scapegoat.

Is Kamala D. Harris a liberal extremist or a snub to liberal extremists? The GOP can’t decide.

Trump backers’ response to Harris’s selection has been somewhat dizzying. They have mostly painted her as the kind of radical that McDaniel did, even labeling her a socialist. But as with the man whose ticket Harris is joining, they have offered mixed messages by also suggesting she is a disappointment to Sanders supporters and even a tool of Wall Street.

Fox News’s prime-time airwaves on Tuesday night were full of dire warnings about Harris’s supposed liberal hostile takeover of the party. But on Tucker Carlson’s show, he asserted she was, in fact, an entirely principle-free politician who would bow to big business.

“[Susan] Rice is a hardened partisan,” Carlson said of another top VP contender who was passed over. “But she is not stupid, and more to the point, Rice has sincere beliefs whether you like them or not — and we don’t. But Kamala D. Harris is the opposite of that. Harris may be the single most transactional human being in America.”

Carlson added: “If you’re choosing a presidential nominee, you think you’d want someone with a built-in constituency, a base of passionate voters you can count on Election Day. But as it turns out, that is the last thing the leaders of the modern Democratic Party wanted. They already had a candidate like that, in fact, his name was Bernie Sanders, and they did everything they could to stop him.”

Carlson concluded: “Voters may not like Kamala D. Harris, but Wall Street does — just in case you’re wondering who is actually in charge.”

It's all just a big mirror, maybe there is more to government than just using it to ram through your personal ideological agenda.

[Morkle]

Kushner met privately with Kanye, reports say.

So surprising...

[nocera]

I don't really understand abstaining from voting, especially on a presidential election. No candidate will ever be perfect or exactly share your vision for the country. You vote for the person that's going to take you closest to where you want to be. By not voting, you're saying you're good with either option. Is that really true?

If neither option gets you closer, then why would you vote for either?

If that's actually true, then sure. I just find that hard to believe.

[tifosi77]

There seems to be a trend with the Republicans in this thread where they're not actually Trump supporters. It's weird, my family has recently switched to this position as well. They're embarrassed to admit to voting Trump so they make sure to bad mouth him and talk about what an embarrassment he's been. And then they say they won't be voting for the man, instead they're voting for the [Republican] party. It's almost as if they know they shouldn't vote for that dadhole so they have to come up with some way to make themselves feel better about their poor choices.

The sitting President normally has an approval rating in the 85%-95% range among members of their own party; it's just sort of baked in to the equation. Thanks in part to advocating for bleach injections and subcutaneous ultraviolet light beams, Trump has dipped down into the lower 80% range among Republicans. But somehow, he's at 1% here. Weird.

[tifosi77]

The scarier part of this are the voters listening to her and going "Yup, that's right. America and Christianity. **** yeah."

Trump is one guy. An objectively s**t guy, but on his own as an individual he's nothing.

It was the tens of million of people who went out and said "Meh, at least it's not her," and found his objective s**ttery to not be a deal breaker that so dismayed me.

[offsides]

I believe the Silent Majority thing to be real. No need to talk politics or let anyone know you're true beliefs if you're going to be repeatedly ridiculed for it.

maybe, but have you met many silent trump supporters?

I refuse to answer this as it may tend to incriminate me here.

[tifosi77]

But he totally dropped the ball on COVID (I think anyone would have)

Most of his ball dropping was because he refused to admit that anything bad could happen during his tenure. Exactly the opposite of what you want in a leader, Driving his diehards to reject any brain growth that separates them from lesser primates. If anyone would have f***ed the dog that hard, America deserves to crash and burn for the good of the planet.

This is essentially where I net out. This thing wasn't known to exist prior to around November of last year, so the entire leadership cadre of the planet has been flying by the seat of their pants. Some have done exceptionally well, others less so.... some have been tragic comedies.

There is a common thread among the four or five nations that have utterly s**t the bed with their response to this.

[AuthorTony]

I was buying sweet corn this morning and the customer in line in front of me spent 15 minutes "educating" the produce seller in the ways of pedophiles and how Trump is the only President in the history of the US who cares about child trafficking. If we don't vote for Trump, the pedos are going to rape all the children.

[shoeshine boy]

The scarier part of this are the voters listening to her and going "Yup, that's right. America and Christianity. **** yeah."

the even SCARIER part is these same people will vote for Trump, despite the fact that he's one of the most unChristian humans to ever be POTUS.

[nocera]

I was buying sweet corn this morning and the customer in line in front of me spent 15 minutes "educating" the produce seller in the ways of pedophiles and how Trump is the only President in the history of the US who cares about child trafficking. If we don't vote for Trump, the pedos are going to rape all the children.

[tifosi77]

My takeaway from the last couple posts is Tony really likes sweet corn.

[count2infinity]

I've recently seen a HUGE increase in FB posts about breaking up pedo rings and protecting the children from my right wing friends. Not sure where that came from. Maybe the Creepy Joe thing? I'm not sure.

[nocera]

[Morkle]

Trump, the guy closely connected to Epstein, Barr, and Dunkoturd is the savior of the pedo ring. In what world do people do these mental gymnastics and actually believe this stuff?