Politics And Current Events

Postby **Freddy Rumsen** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:21 pm

So this is still going on.

Postby **nocera** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:22 pm

People asking Black Lives Matter to show outrage over ‘Black crime’ says so much about their ignorance
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-co ... rance.html

Why asking black people about "black-on-black crime" misses the point
https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11510274/ ... me-poverty

Why Black Lives Matter doesn't focus on ‘black-on-black’ crime
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /87609692/

Stop using ‘black-on-black’ crime to deflect away from police brutality
https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/06/ ... ality.html

Postby **NAN** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:31 pm

So this is still going on.

At least they won't cross that fence.

Postby **NAN** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:34 pm

Atlanta mayor got covid. Said she has no symptoms.

Postby **skullman80** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:39 pm

People asking Black Lives Matter to show outrage over ‘Black crime’ says so much about their ignorance
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-co ... rance.html

Why asking black people about "black-on-black crime" misses the point
https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11510274/ ... me-poverty

Why Black Lives Matter doesn't focus on ‘black-on-black’ crime
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /87609692/

Stop using ‘black-on-black’ crime to deflect away from police brutality
https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/06/ ... ality.html

Postby **MWB** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:12 pm

People asking Black Lives Matter to show outrage over ‘Black crime’ says so much about their ignorance
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-co ... rance.html

Why asking black people about "black-on-black crime" misses the point
https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11510274/ ... me-poverty

Why Black Lives Matter doesn't focus on ‘black-on-black’ crime
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /87609692/

Stop using ‘black-on-black’ crime to deflect away from police brutality
https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/06/ ... ality.html

A lot of these arguments have been brought up in this thread.

People would like things to be done the way they want them done, not the way they’re being done. Yes, protest, but do it this way. Yes, have concern, but make sure the concerns cover this as well. We like to make sure every organization is perfect.

Postby **shafnutz05** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:26 pm

Look, I get it. I don't mean to deflect from police brutality, which I've consistently been on record as speaking out against in this thread and the other one.

My other main concern with BLM is that it is very closely aligned to far-Left causes. There's a reason why Antifa and BLM have become intertwined during the last couple of months, and it's not by accident. Every protest is well attended by the college Marxist/Che crowd, and as I've pointed out before, the founders of the movement are vocal members of the extreme left wing. The political goals and ends, to me, go far beyond just ending unjust policing of black communities.

There are obvious radical elements to the movement and its membership. And I feel like if there was a similar infestation of far right wing radicals in a different movement, there would be a lot more widespread concern. Forgive the source but CNN and the Times haven't really gone out of their way to investigate anything that puts BLM in a questionable light.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-fo ... d-marxist/

Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said in a newly surfaced video from 2015 that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists” – making clear their movement’s ideological foundation, according to a report.

Cullors, 36, was the protégé of Eric Mann, former agitator of the Weather Underground domestic terror organization, and spent years absorbing the Marxist-Leninist ideology that shaped her worldview, Breitbart News reported.

“The first thing, I think, is that we actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia in particular are trained organizers,” she said, referring to BLM co-founder Alicia Garza.

“We are trained Marxists. We are super-versed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think that what we really tried to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many black folk,” Cullors added in the interview with Jared Ball of The Real News Network.

Postby **NAN** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:33 pm

People asking Black Lives Matter to show outrage over ‘Black crime’ says so much about their ignorance
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-co ... rance.html

Why asking black people about "black-on-black crime" misses the point
https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11510274/ ... me-poverty

Why Black Lives Matter doesn't focus on ‘black-on-black’ crime
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /87609692/

Stop using ‘black-on-black’ crime to deflect away from police brutality
https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/06/ ... ality.html
A lot of these arguments have been brought up in this thread.

People would like things to be done the way they want them done, not the way they’re being done. Yes, protest, but do it this way. Yes, have concern, but make sure the concerns cover this as well. We like to make sure every organization is perfect.

I can post links saying the opposite from black leaders. In fact the atlanta mayor said it just today the black community needs to clean up within as well.

Personally I think both need done.

Postby **King Colby** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:39 pm

I think it all leads back to Black Lives Matter being an awful name for what they're trying to accomplish

Postby **MWB** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:42 pm

What is the organization of BLM doing that is concerning? Is it that they are theoretically inciting people to tear down statues? Maybe so, but I think it’s mostly a combination of people trying to make a statement, people trying to be woke, and people trying to get attention. Is it people looting? That seems to be opportunism. Is it the CHOP people? I don’t know if that was a BLM organization, but if so, they should’ve done a better job of keeping it under control.

At this point, I don’t really see that BLM is some boogey man. Maybe the concern is that they’ll start bombing police offices and killing cops. Being connected to, or even influenced by, violent agitators of the past doesn’t mean you’ll do the same. A lot of this has to do with having a shared purpose.

Postby **NAN** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:46 pm

Well georgia govenor just released the national guard on atlanta.

Postby **MWB** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:46 pm

People asking Black Lives Matter to show outrage over ‘Black crime’ says so much about their ignorance
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-co ... rance.html

Why asking black people about "black-on-black crime" misses the point
https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11510274/ ... me-poverty

Why Black Lives Matter doesn't focus on ‘black-on-black’ crime
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /87609692/

Stop using ‘black-on-black’ crime to deflect away from police brutality
https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/06/ ... ality.html
A lot of these arguments have been brought up in this thread.

People would like things to be done the way they want them done, not the way they’re being done. Yes, protest, but do it this way. Yes, have concern, but make sure the concerns cover this as well. We like to make sure every organization is perfect.
I can post links saying the opposite from black leaders. In fact the atlanta mayor said it just today the black community needs to clean up within as well.

Personally I think both need done.

That doesn’t mean that you have to pick one. But who cares if someone does pick one? That would be like you putting in a lot of work in the black community to mentor kids and alleviate violence and me telling you, “yeah, but why aren’t you curbing police brutality.”

Postby **MWB** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:47 pm

I think it all leads back to Black Lives Matter being an awful name for what they're trying to accomplish

Hindsight, probably so. But I think it’s really only the case if one chooses to ignore context.

Postby **King Colby** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:56 pm

I think it all leads back to Black Lives Matter being an awful name for what they're trying to accomplish
Hindsight, probably so. But I think it’s really only the case if one chooses to ignore context.

You could say the same about the Cleveland Indians

Postby **faftorial** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:03 pm

I think it all leads back to Black Lives Matter being an awful name for what they're trying to accomplish

What's up with @NailedPenguin's fave BLM member DeRay McKesson these days?

Postby **MWB** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:08 pm

He started a campaign to target specific things police departments can implement to reduce brutality against everyone.

Postby **faftorial** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:18 pm

He started a campaign to target specific things police departments can implement to reduce brutality against everyone.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:38 pm

California removes anti-discrimination language from state constitution to promote discrimination to help certain races advance...

https://fee.org/articles/california-leg ... imination/

*nods with sh*t-eating grin*

Postby **shafnutz05** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:55 pm

California removes anti-discrimination language from state constitution to promote discrimination to help certain races advance...

https://fee.org/articles/california-leg ... imination/

*nods with sh*t-eating grin*

I heard rumblings they were going to find a a way to repeal 209. So bizarre to see a legislature celebrate the codifying of discrimination.

Postby **Lemon Berry Lobster** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:57 pm

California removes anti-discrimination language from state constitution to promote discrimination to help certain races advance...

https://fee.org/articles/california-leg ... imination/

*nods with sh*t-eating grin*
I heard rumblings they were going to find a a way to repeal 209. So bizarre to see a legislature celebrate the codifying of discrimination.

As long as they only discriminate against straight white males they'll be defeating the patriarchy and white privilege.

Postby **faftorial** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:02 pm

As long as they only discriminate against straight white males they'll be defeating the patriarchy and white privilege.

Have some lime tonight?

Postby **shafnutz05** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:24 pm

Cha ching. Colin finally got paid.

Postby **faftorial** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:36 pm

Cha ching. Colin finally got paid.

People hating him made him a star.

Postby **Lemon Berry Lobster** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:41 pm

As long as they only discriminate against straight white males they'll be defeating the patriarchy and white privilege.
Have some lime tonight?

Because they repealed discrimination to use it against POC, women, and the LGBQT+ communities?

Postby **NailedPenguin** » Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:19 pm

I think it all leads back to Black Lives Matter being an awful name for what they're trying to accomplish
What's up with @NailedPenguin's fave BLM member DeRay McKesson these days?

His notoriety kind of went *poof* with Hillary's loss. Not sure I've seen his name mentioned in years. I'm sure he's still making bank tho like he always has. Doing very honest and truthful deeds.