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Postby eddy » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:12 am

Romney says it’s “increasingly likely” that there will be enough Republicans to vote in support of calling John Bolton as a witness.

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Postby Gaucho » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:14 am

Oh, I'm sure.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:15 am

Here is your latest Hunter Biden update factorial. ;)

That's a sweet ride for someone who can't afford child support. Burisma money doing well. :lol:

Yes, please keep me up to date on Trump kids too.
Don Jr is either trolling on the internet or shooting endangered animals.

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Postby slappybrown » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:57 am

Mitt Romney, 2020 Bull Moose Party candidate for President and true 4D Chess Champion

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Postby Gaucho » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:24 am

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:55 am

The Sanders surge is pretty fascinating. I don't think it impossible he wins three out of four.


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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:17 pm

Mitt Romney, 2020 Bull Moose Party candidate for President and true 4D Chess Champion
:thumb: :lol:

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Postby shafnutz05 » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:17 pm

Mitt Romney, 2020 Bull Moose Party candidate for President and true 4D Chess Champion
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Postby Sam's Drunk Dog » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:34 pm

Looks like Trump might not be able to claim executive privilege regarding Bolton

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:38 pm

More interesting stuff out of NH.


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Postby bhflyhigh » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:07 pm

Ha. That's great. The goal posts shift again.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:18 pm

Lol, the extortion failed, so NBD!

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:22 pm

Here, the president’s best defense has always been that Ukraine got its security aid, and President Volodymyr Zelensky got his coveted high-profile audience with the president of the United States (albeit at the U.N., rather than at the White House). Kyiv barely knew defense aid was being withheld, the very temporary delay had no impact whatsoever on Ukraine’s capacity to counter Russian aggression, and Zelensky was required neither to order nor to announce any investigation of the Bidens.

However objectionable the calculations that led to the delay may have been, nothing of consequence happened. Therefore, there was no impeachable offense. Case closed.

Except it’s not case closed, because President Trump and his advocates would not content themselves with a strong defense built on what was true. The president wants total vindication, which is not necessary in order to avoid removal from office. So he has mounted his defense on the impossible propositions that his interaction with Zelensky was “perfect” and that there was no quid pro quo.
Yup... it's the same thing that I said about Soleimani's death:

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:25 pm

It is funny to me how being anti-Trump washes away your sins. We saw it with Avenatti, Michael Cohen, etc...


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Postby count2infinity » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:29 pm

If you have known liar, but is under oath vs. known liar that is just spouting sh*t on twitter, I'll believe the former in a he said/she said situation. Let's put him under oath and see what he has to say.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:30 pm

David French is a known dumbass.

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:31 pm

nice now onto discredit John Bolton phase of defending the pathological liar

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Postby Beveridge » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:31 pm

This thread would be about 50 pages if we didn't point out that water is wet people take issue with ones with opposing ideas but are good if in agreement every time it happens.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:34 pm

If you have known liar, but is under oath vs. known liar that is just spouting sh*t on twitter, I'll believe the former in a he said/she said situation. Let's put him under oath and see what he has to say.
This isn't even a he said - she said, this is an undeniable truth with unlimited circumstantial evidence. Bolton is just one more voice validating said undeniable truth.

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Postby Beveridge » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:39 pm

Here's my problem with all this. I don't know what happened. Gun to head I'm going to lean the direction of what was most likely said.

If a senator in this instance with a D or R attached to their name was for/against Bolton when he was in the White House, why should that change now?

Why should Dems or GOP basically flip their views on Bolton other than now he is saying something that helps/hurts my position?

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:43 pm

Here's my problem with all this. I don't know what happened. Gun to head I'm going to lean the direction of what was most likely said.

If a senator in this instance with a D or R attached to their name was for/against Bolton when he was in the White House, why should that change now?

Why should Dems or GOP basically flip their views on Bolton other than now he is saying something that helps/hurts my position?
I agree. I don't understand why Bolton is such an inflection point. He's not going to say anything that isn't obvious to anyone. I guess the point is that some republican senators are pretending to believe that they think the charges against Trump are bad, and if they were forced to confront first hand evidence that the allegations are true, that they would be ~inclined to vote for removal.

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