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Postby count2infinity » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:09 am

NP talking nuance...

:lol:

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:15 am

Heller also made it crystal clear that gun ownership is limited and is to be regulated.

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Postby MWB » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:25 am

Ahhh, so a differing interpretation of the 2nd Amendment (one where the word militia actually holds value) and wanting to amend the constitution on the voting procedure to elect the President are "Hating the Constitution."

So glad the Civil Rights movement "Hated the Constitution." And Women's Suffrage.

You can pick apart my words all you want, but they don't get to change or remove the parts you don't like, then turn right around and act like it's some sacred document you have no choice but to step up and defend when trying to remove the President. I just laughed at the phoniness. "Nancy's full of it" is basically the gist of my original post, and I've had to explain myself to now 3 different people because everything I said is taken 100% literal. I thought nuance was a big thing around here?
You are the one missing the nuance. You seem to be saying all parts should be set in stone. You either like it as is, or you don’t. That isn’t how it was set up and isn’t how it was meant to be viewed.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:28 am

Heller also made it crystal clear that gun ownership is limited and is to be regulated.
It's already regulated and limited.

It also has nothing to do with the word militia "holding value", which is what we were talking about.

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:28 am

I also don't understand where the "nuance" was to begin with.

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:30 am

Heller also made it crystal clear that gun ownership is limited and is to be regulated.
It's already regulated and limited.

It also has nothing to do with the word militia "holding value", which is what we were talking about.
But also relevant as to the question of whether seeking additional limitations is "trashing the constitution".

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:53 am

Ok nobody

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:42 am

Heller does not divorce the concepts of owning arms for militia service and owning them just because you want to own them for whatever lawful purpose; it says that the former being written out in the text does not preclude the latter. In fact, it limits the constitutional protection of such ownership to the type of (small) arms that would typically be used in the course of an individual's militia service. Does protect: AR-15s, semi-auto handguns. Does not protect: Ma Deuces, M249s, etc.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:22 pm

Another corrupt Democrat from Philadelphia. They just churn them out down here.

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Postby blackjack68 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:26 pm

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Postby MR25 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:15 pm

Is that the Naval station in Florida or the one at Pearl Harbor yesterday?

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:19 pm

Is that the Naval station in Florida or the one at Pearl Harbor yesterday?
There was a shooting in Pensacola today. This is that one.

I haven't heard/seen any new info on the reasons for the Pearl Harbor one.

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:22 pm

Is that the Naval station in Florida or the one at Pearl Harbor yesterday?
There was a shooting in Pensacola today. This is that one.

I haven't heard/seen any new info on the reasons for the Pearl Harbor one.

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Postby Kaiser » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:33 pm

Love Pelosi reaching way back and pulling out her strong religious beliefs, the constitution, and respect for our Founding Fathers. You know; 3 things the left just absolutely love. Who are we to question her or these proceedings??
Get your head out of your ass.

LMAO. You seem to always have a problem when people just talk about something that happens.

Nobody buys that these fools are just stepping up to save the Constitution and preserve what the founding fathers built when they spend every other moment they get trashing these things.
What does “the left” trash about the constitution?

The 2nd Amendment and the Electoral College for starters. How many times have we heard it's an outdated document written by dead guys that doesn't apply to the world today?
I say that all the time, but I'm not exactly Left.

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Postby count2infinity » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:42 pm

I say that all the time, but I'm not exactly Left.
Comparatively speaking...

If you're anywhere left of center, you're "the left".

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Postby Trip McNeely » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:43 pm

I say that all the time, but I'm not exactly Left.
Comparatively speaking...

If you're anywhere left of center, you're "the left".
I’m a communist

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:52 pm

Hmmm, a Saudi national in flight school in Florida turns out to be a terrorist. That sounds ominously familiar.

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:20 pm

Maybe somewhere in the depths of what Haley was saying, there was a point, but if one piece of her understanding of that argument is that it was the media's agenda to make the Dylan Roof shooting about racism, then maybe some self examination is in order.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nikki-hal ... ijacked-it
“People saw it as service, and sacrifice, and heritage,” the ex-governor continued. “But once he did that, there was no way to overcome it. And the national media came in droves—they wanted to define what happened. They wanted it to make this about racism. They wanted to make it about gun control. They wanted to make it about the death penalty.”

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:25 pm

Maybe somewhere in the depths of what Haley was saying, there was a point, but if one piece of her understanding of that argument is that it was the media's agenda to make the Dylan Roof shooting about racism, then maybe some self examination is in order.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/nikki-hal ... ijacked-it
“People saw it as service, and sacrifice, and heritage,” the ex-governor continued. “But once he did that, there was no way to overcome it. And the national media came in droves—they wanted to define what happened. They wanted it to make this about racism. They wanted to make it about gun control. They wanted to make it about the death penalty.”
You didn't watch the video did you?

If you actually hear the context of the quotes and listen to what she says that this was the general feeling of people in South Carolina during the flag debate, not what she thinks. But it doesn't matter because that's not what you want her to be saying.

And people complain about Sean Hannity and Faux News.

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:36 pm

Yes, she's talking specifically about the Roof incident in that context and said the media wanted to make it about racism.

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Postby count2infinity » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:40 pm

Roof is the kid that admitted he did the shooting to start a race war isn't he? But the media made it about racism?

I didn't watch the video though, so maybe there is other context I'm missing.

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Postby Troy Loney » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:46 pm

Right, so she was making the same old, blah blah blah SC people love their heritage and the flag blah blah blah. Great. I don't give a ****. But I would say it is objectively stupid to say that the media wanted to make the Roof murders about race.

I guess it's possible that Haley doesn't understand that part of the media's job is to report on things that happen.

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Postby MWB » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:51 pm

Media is bad. All the time. Obviously.

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