Politics And Current Events

[MR25]

So you'd be OK with him (or any other politician) tweeting out a fake photo or manipulated video of an opponent/event in order to gain a political advantage or direct a narrative?

All I'm asking is that people take this into account.

Apparently that is too much to ask.

I don't believe any President should be disseminating faked images through official communications (since Twitter is now considered official).

But nuance is dead so pointing that out makes me crazy.

[MWB]

I mean legit national news outlets we're chastising Trump for "misrepresentation" and "we caught him in another lie!" Troy called it "just doing their job" and blamed it on Trump. Now it's our fault for mentioning it and not just letting that stupidity slide.

I’ve only the tweet... which news outlets chastised trump?

All of them. Every. Liberal. News. Outlet.

Again, the people who acknowledge something happened deserve to be mocked. Not the morons who did it or the morons defending it. It only became a big deal because Freddy and I posted about it ITT. Not because National news organizations showed their asses for the 5th time again this week. It's our fault.

So which ones chastised trump?

[grunthy]

So you'd be OK with him (or any other politician) tweeting out a fake photo or manipulated video of an opponent/event in order to gain a political advantage or direct a narrative?

All I'm asking is that people take this into account.

Apparently that is too much to ask.

I don't believe any President should be disseminating faked images through official communications (since Twitter is now considered official).

But nuance is dead so pointing that out makes me crazy.

[MR25]

My mistake for trying to bring nuance into a discussion with you 3.

[Freddy Rumsen]

I mean legit national news outlets we're chastising Trump for "misrepresentation" and "we caught him in another lie!" Troy called it "just doing their job" and blamed it on Trump. Now it's our fault for mentioning it and not just letting that stupidity slide.

I’ve only the tweet... which news outlets chastised trump?

All of them. Every. Liberal. News. Outlet.

Again, the people who acknowledge something happened deserve to be mocked. Not the morons who did it or the morons defending it. It only became a big deal because Freddy and I posted about it ITT. Not because National news organizations showed their asses for the 5th time again this week. It's our fault.

So which ones chastised trump?

An example



And this hero was at it again

[grunthy]

My mistake for trying to bring nuance into a discussion with you 3.

Just because you keep saying you are trying to be nuanced, doesn’t make your argument not bat **** crazy.

[MR25]

Saying any political figure shouldn't be putting out faked photos/videos on official communications is crazy?

[NailedPenguin]

You can say nuance 50 more times and it doesn't make it any less ridiculous. It was a picture (with the watermark of the website that made it) of him putting a fake medal of a paw print around a dogs neck. It wasn't some deep fake video, or people running around with Warren and Bernie masks scaring kids like a Scooby Doo villain.

[NailedPenguin]

He's tweeted Trump Train memes before too. I'm willing to bet he's never stood on top of a speeding locomotive waving old Glory either. Trying to make us think he's some stunt man.

[grunthy]

Saying any political figure shouldn't be putting out faked photos/videos on official communications is crazy?

He should have tweeted the real one.

[slappybrown]

1. No one should give a sht. Trump lies all the time, yes. This, hwoever, is not a "falsehood" or a "lie". There is no intent or desire to mislead the public; its a dang photoshop that Shad probably would have unironically shared in his Toon Town Troops for Trump and Sheetz Supporters FB group.

2. If the tweets Freddy is sharing are the "best" examples of media "chastisement", I expected a helluva a lot more. Explaining what the picture was to the public -- many of whom are absolute morons and may think that he gave the dog a medal -- is fine. It seems those tweets accurately described what happened. He shared an altered picture. I do think that contacting McCloughan is in the hopes he says its offensive to him or he's angry over it. They're chasing a juicy quote and clicks on that front.

3. IMO the dog should get a medal and he is an extremely good boy.

[Freddy Rumsen]

In actual serious things, nuanced or not.

Only one D voted no.

[Gaucho]

[Ted]

This board is a bunch of stupid people’s impressions of what smart people should sound like.

[Gaucho]

[Freddy Rumsen]

[MWB]

I’ve only the tweet... which news outlets chastised trump?

All of them. Every. Liberal. News. Outlet.

Again, the people who acknowledge something happened deserve to be mocked. Not the morons who did it or the morons defending it. It only became a big deal because Freddy and I posted about it ITT. Not because National news organizations showed their asses for the 5th time again this week. It's our fault.

So which ones chastised trump?

An example



And this hero was at it again

I guess we have different definitions of “chastised.” Those are literally just factual statements.

[CBear3]

Jefferson, who constantly ran disinformation and attack campaigns while in Washington's cabinet, who refused to fess up on it publicly, who paid writer's to violate the Sedition Acts and left them out to dry after the fact...That Jefferson?

Don't get me wrong. Great as a founding father, but between him & A-Ham they wrote the American book on twisting half truths into all out lies to try to catch their opponents with their pants down. A- Ham died because he owned up to, Jefferson never did.

[Morkle]

Seems like it was the perfect day to have a bunch of meetings in the morning lol.

[tifosi77]

Where was this meeting?

It was in a SCIF. The HRC email server is actually rack mounted under that table, and Edward Snowden took the photo.

[shafnutz05]

It's a fake image. Tweeted by the President. The event depicted did not actually happen.

Yes, that is a "lie". A "falsehood".

If we are willing to accept a photoshopped image being tweeted, where do we draw the line? If it's not pointed out, what prevents him from taking other photoshops/fakes further to try to turn a narrative?

I just read the last few pages...lol. I think "Trump Derangement Syndrome" is largely overblown, and it's by the same people that overuse that annoying term "snowflake". That said, I'm convinced after reading MR25's posts over the last few pages that he is a full-blown sufferer of TDS.

TRUMP DIDN'T REALLY STAND UP ON TOP OF THAT TRAIN. HIM POSTING THAT GIF IS MISLEADING AND WILL MAKE PEOPLE THINK HE REALLY STOOD ON TOP OF A TRAIN.

[tifosi77]

I'm not gonna lose my mind over the dog photo, as it was clearly a derivative work of the original photo. But I will also say I don't think it's particularly useful for the President to use his official blue-check Twitter handle to post memes. But that's an issue that goes very very very far beyond fake pictures of dogs (good boy) being awarded the MOH.

[MR25]

Apparently you missed the part where I said I wasn't comfortable with any politician or President doing it, but you do you.

[Willie Kool]

Where was this meeting?

It was in a SCIF.

Shepherd Controlled Information Facility

[dodint]

Where was this meeting?

It was in a SCIF. The HRC email server is actually rack mounted under that table, and Edward Snowden took the photo.

Fortunately the ethernet was not connected.