Politics And Current Events

[NAN]

It is funny, mostly cringey, to listen to these people constantly drop clearly rehearsed lines that you know they're team is telling them to just get in no matter what, it'll kill. Kind of makes you appreciate Trump's off the cuff approach. More authentic

I definitely feel Trump is way more genuine than most candidates by a mile. He says what he's thinking at the time no matter how faux pas it is. I also feel that this is probably why AOC generates so much excitement. She doesn't try to water things down or change her message to suit the Washington elite. I think this kind of honest, 'off the cuff' talk in politics is greatly needed. People are more drawn to someone who says what they actually feel as opposed to a well rehearsed robot. You don't know what the robot is thinking.

Especially a lighter shade robot apparantley.

[grunthy]

I've just learned everything is racist over the past 2 years.

no you didn't. you've learned that there's a heightened sensitivity, but your life is 100% unchanged.

For real, NAN. Just heightened sensitivity is all

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1156916257834381312

CNN
@CNN
Have you ever noticed the popularity of white robots? The reason for these shades of technological white may be racism, according to new research.

I ordered a black mouse pad yesterday. Pretty sure this is a sign of my inherent wokeness on racial issues.

I don’t have a mouse pad. I must be super woke.

[grunthy]

It is funny, mostly cringey, to listen to these people constantly drop clearly rehearsed lines that you know they're team is telling them to just get in no matter what, it'll kill. Kind of makes you appreciate Trump's off the cuff approach. More authentic

I definitely feel Trump is way more genuine than most candidates by a mile. He says what he's thinking at the time no matter how faux pas it is. I also feel that this is probably why AOC generates so much excitement. She doesn't try to water things down or change her message to suit the Washington elite. I think this kind of honest, 'off the cuff' talk in politics is greatly needed. People are more drawn to someone who says what they actually feel as opposed to a well rehearsed robot. You don't know what the robot is thinking.

He is definitely honest about showing that he is an asshat.

[MWB]

Trump says what his base wants to feel. His ideology is very fluid. I don’t think he has positions in stone that he can really be honest about.

[Troy Loney]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/01/trump-s ... ber-1.html

[count2infinity]

Good! That'll show 'em!

[slappybrown]

What is the professional/academic take in support of this kind of thing? Trump obviously doesn't care about the tariffs beyond getting to yell about it on TV and complaining generally about "Jyna", but the actual economists/negotiators/trade reps have to have some goal(s) in mind -- both from the micro perspective of these specific negotiations with Jyna, and from a big picture attempt to re-shape the economic order through the use of tariffs and more protectionist actions with multiple trading partners. What's the over-arching approach and target we are shooting at?

[blackjack68]

Meanwhile, my farmer friends are suffering sizable losses on exports.

[Troy Loney]

What is the professional/academic take in support of this kind of thing? Trump obviously doesn't care about the tariffs beyond getting to yell about it on TV and complaining generally about "Jyna", but the actual economists/negotiators/trade reps have to have some goal(s) in mind -- both from the micro perspective of these specific negotiations with Jyna, and from a big picture attempt to re-shape the economic order through the use of tariffs and more protectionist actions with multiple trading partners. What's the over-arching approach and target we are shooting at?

Baby boomers are, in general, idiots that think America needs to make stuff in factories to exert economic dominance. One has to assume that Trump thinks that he can bring manufacturing back to America by either making it too expensive to import, or that he can make a trade deal with China where they will buy so much American made stuff that the US will become an export economy. He's as ignorant about global trade as he seems and he is surrounded by yes men loyalists that I'm sure will endure anything.

[DigitalGypsy66]

What is the professional/academic take in support of this kind of thing? Trump obviously doesn't care about the tariffs beyond getting to yell about it on TV and complaining generally about "Jyna", but the actual economists/negotiators/trade reps have to have some goal(s) in mind -- both from the micro perspective of these specific negotiations with Jyna, and from a big picture attempt to re-shape the economic order through the use of tariffs and more protectionist actions with multiple trading partners. What's the over-arching approach and target we are shooting at?

Probably needs to be stated again: the president is increasing tariffs the day after the Fed Chair (whom the president chose) warned that tariffs represent the single biggest threat to the us and global economies. And he said it repeatedly.

https://twitter.com/steveliesman/status ... 7110056960

[tifosi77]

My understanding is that pretty much all of the President's advisors understand that tariffs are dumb and have articulated as much El Cheeto numerous times. The reporting is that he genuinely does not understand how they work, that it is US importers - and ultimately US consumers - who foot the bill.

But hey, you know, MAGA n'at.

[tifosi77]

Baby boomers are, in general, idiots that think America needs to make stuff in factories to exert economic dominance.

As a raw number, there are as many civilians employed in the manufacturing sector today as the were right before the Korean War. The difference is, the size of the workforce is substantially larger than it was then (thanks in part to both general increase in population and a larger participation of women), and so the overall percentage of the workforce represented by that number has fallen from 40% to under 10%.

[Troy Loney]

My understanding is that pretty much all of the President's advisors understand that tariffs are dumb and have articulated as much El Cheeto numerous times. The reporting is that he genuinely does not understand how they work, that it is US importers - and ultimately US consumers - who foot the bill.

But hey, you know, MAGA n'at.

Did you read Woodward's book? There is a consortium of pro-tariff dumbies. Peter Navarro and Wilbur Ross the primary ones, I think Miller might be a tariff guy too. At the beginning, Cohn was able to get Navarro into some minimal role where he would never get access to the president, but then there would be instances where Bannon would get him into the oval office where he'd talk to trump and get him all worked up on the trade deals. Cohn and Porter seem to have been the guys with access to the president that spent an inordinate amount of time trying to talk him out of unilateral tariffs or breaking existing trade deals. He is apparently set on ditching the trade deal with South Korea as well.

[Kaiser]

I like my racists and robots visible, so start making camo orange robo-longshoremen

[Willie Kool]

I dunno man. My life's pretty good. As is the life of most of the people I know.

A whole lot of Germans would have said the same under the Nazi regime...

[NAN]

I dunno man. My life's pretty good. As is the life of most of the people I know.

A whole lot of Germans would have said the same under the Nazi regime...

I don't see millions of American's being gassed in concentration camps though.

[dodint]

I dunno man. My life's pretty good. As is the life of most of the people I know.

A whole lot of Germans would have said the same under the Nazi regime...

I'd kill for an American Autobahn.

[Shyster]

This was a pretty nice synopsis of the Democratic debate.

But the Wednesday night debate was quite different, as the candidates reeled off prepared lines geared towards putting identity- and class-politics at the heart of the revival of the party and their advancement to the next round. This approach was discarded in the ’90s, only to return bigger than ever today, as each candidate sought to outdo the other with outlandish promises and oppo-research attacks.

Why Are Democrats Working So Hard to Win the Woke Left?
https://reason.com/2019/07/31/democrat- ... rand-woke/

It's important to remember, as The Atlantic's Yascha Mounk pointed out in a writeup of a survey that found more than 80 percent of people despise political correctness, that the number of Americans who think people should routinely check their privilege constitute a tiny minority. It seems curious that Democrats are so determined to win them.

[Willie Kool]

I dunno man. My life's pretty good. As is the life of most of the people I know.

A whole lot of Germans would have said the same under the Nazi regime...

I don't see millions of American's being gassed in concentration camps though.

The average German didn't see that at the time either...

[Willie Kool]

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[grunthy]

I dunno man. My life's pretty good. As is the life of most of the people I know.

A whole lot of Germans would have said the same under the Nazi regime...

I don't see millions of American's being gassed in concentration camps though.

The average German didn't see that at the time either...

So you’re basically insinuating that America is gassing (theoretically or literally) people?

[MR25]

Jesus Christ you can't seriously be discerning that from his post

[Willie Kool]

So you’re basically insinuating that America is gassing (theoretically or literally) people?

No, they can't make enough money killing them.

We keep them incarcerated instead.

[grunthy]

Jesus Christ you can't seriously be discerning that from his post

Do you know what theoretically means?

[grunthy]

Theoretically would not mean gassing physically, but using other means to destroy people’s lives.