Politics And Current Events

[Factorial]

Former Vice President Joe Biden leads President Trump by 13 points nationally, according to the latest Quinnipiac University survey.

In a national head-to-head matchup, the poll found Biden taking 53 percent against 40 percent for Trump, with the poll's assistant director describing it as a "landslide" margin.

Five other Democratic contenders also lead the president: Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) hold healthy leads over Trump, with Sanders up by 9 points, Harris ahead by 8 and Warren leading by 7.

South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D) and Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) lead Trump by 5 points, with each posting a 47 to 42 split.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... ional-poll

[shafnutz05]

Former Vice President Joe Biden leads President Trump by 13 points nationally, according to the latest Quinnipiac University survey.

In a national head-to-head matchup, the poll found Biden taking 53 percent against 40 percent for Trump, with the poll's assistant director describing it as a "landslide" margin.

Five other Democratic contenders also lead the president: Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) hold healthy leads over Trump, with Sanders up by 9 points, Harris ahead by 8 and Warren leading by 7.

South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg (D) and Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) lead Trump by 5 points, with each posting a 47 to 42 split.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... ional-poll

Yup...and I say again, Biden will win in a landslide if he is the Democratic nominee.

[eddy]

Source of the post Yup...and I say again, Biden will win in a landslide if he is the Democratic nominee.

what is the appeal of Biden?

[Factorial]

Source of the post Yup...and I say again, Biden will win in a landslide if he is the Democratic nominee.

what is the appeal of Biden?

1. He's not Trump

[Troy Loney]

I'm not sure about these polls.

I'm guessing this just has to be buyer's remorse for lots of Trump voters. It seems like a lot of people in the midwestern swing states (PA, MI, OH, WI) voted Trump because he was the outsider that would shake things up. Biden is basically voting for status quo, and not Hillary Clinton, and he seems to be who that voting bloc has gravitated towards (there was a recent story about how Trump's internal polling showed him getting crushed in state polls).

I think the theory of the Biden crowd has to be that there were two distinct 2016 Trump blocs in the rust belt. The "base", who knew Trump was a blowhard, but wanted a blowhard, and love that he's "triggering" the libs and the liberal media everyday, they just want to be entertained. And there would have to be another significant bloc that blames Washington for all their problems and thought Trump could change things.

[Factorial]

At least a few republicans here have said they would vote for him over Trump. Even @nobody I believe? I don't think any of them would vote for one of the other candidates.

[grunthy]

Source of the post Yup...and I say again, Biden will win in a landslide if he is the Democratic nominee.

what is the appeal of Biden?

He is a political reset.

[Factorial]

And there would have to be another significant bloc that blames Washington for all their problems and thought Trump could change things.

You're forgetting the "I hate Hillary" crowd.

[Factorial]

Source of the post Yup...and I say again, Biden will win in a landslide if he is the Democratic nominee.

what is the appeal of Biden?

He is a political reset.

So if Sanders/Warren get the nomination, you'll sit out the election again?

[Factorial]

So, I guess the question is how many moderates/republicans will only vote for Biden vs how many leftists will only vote for Sanders/Warren.

[Beveridge]

We need someone more central that will bring Congress back together, if that's possible. I don't care if they have a R, D, I, X, Y, Z tagged to their name.

I'd vote for Biden because I feel he fits that bill. Sanders/Warren are mostly a complete swing the other way.

[grunthy]

Source of the post Yup...and I say again, Biden will win in a landslide if he is the Democratic nominee.

what is the appeal of Biden?

He is a political reset.

So if Sanders/Warren get the nomination, you'll sit out the election again?

Probably for the presidential election, unless a good third party candidate comes along.

[Troy Loney]

So, I guess the question is how many moderates/republicans will only vote for Biden vs how many leftists will only vote for Sanders/Warren.

Warren voters are just democrats and will vote for Biden.

There is definitely a far left part of the Sanders bloc that wouldn't vote for Biden.

[CBear3]

We need someone more central that will bring Congress back together, if that's possible. I don't care if they have a R, D, I, X, Y, Z tagged to their name.

I'd vote for Biden because I feel he fits that bill. Sanders/Warren are mostly a complete swing the other way.

Exactly. Although I'm not sure any President can do that. The flip side is, just having a realistic expectations for a split Congress. Biden yesterday said they were going to cure cancer as his moonshot announcement. He was getting ripped from every side over it. It's incredibly unlikely in five years, and it obviously comes from a place where he's still mourning his son. But people are beating him up over saying this instead of being for M4A.
Again, realistic expectations. There's a better chance of curing cancer than getting Republicans to vote for M4A, and people need to start understanding that.

[Factorial]

There's a better chance of curing cancer than getting Republicans to vote for M4A, and people need to start understanding that.

[Troy Loney]

We need someone more central that will bring Congress back together, if that's possible. I don't care if they have a R, D, I, X, Y, Z tagged to their name.

I'd vote for Biden because I feel he fits that bill. Sanders/Warren are mostly a complete swing the other way.

Exactly. Although I'm not sure any President can do that. The flip side is, just having a realistic expectations for a split Congress. Biden yesterday said they were going to cure cancer as his moonshot announcement. He was getting ripped from every side over it. It's incredibly unlikely in five years, and it obviously comes from a place where he's still mourning his son. But people are beating him up over saying this instead of being for M4A.
Again, realistic expectations. There's a better chance of curing cancer than getting Republicans to vote for M4A, and people need to start understanding that.

Yeah, I mean, the retort from the left is, just get to 50 in the senate, and ram M4A through reconciliation. Which would obviously be quite tenuous. I think though that there are merits to that. The GOP labeled Obamacare socialism, and it's quite clearly not socialism, it's a contrived compromise between the two parties, that is only just slightly better than no-obamacare. And also not a compromise because the republicans don't want a government healthcare anything so didn't compromise.

Either way, basically we'll need another 9/11 to get any sort of unified america again.

[shmenguin]

So, I guess the question is how many moderates/republicans will only vote for Biden vs how many leftists will only vote for Sanders/Warren.

Warren voters are just democrats and will vote for Biden.

There is definitely a far left part of the Sanders bloc that wouldn't vote for Biden.

The Sanders bloc would oversleep, play video games, look at the clock and see they missed the deadline and say, “meh. Didn’t like Biden that much anyways - I’m gonna go on Reddit and say this was intentional”.

[Factorial]

So, I guess the question is how many moderates/republicans will only vote for Biden vs how many leftists will only vote for Sanders/Warren.

Warren voters are just democrats and will vote for Biden.

There is definitely a far left part of the Sanders bloc that wouldn't vote for Biden.

The Sanders bloc would oversleep, play video games, look at the clock and see they missed the deadline and say, “meh. Didn’t like Biden that much anyways - I’m gonna go on Reddit and say this was intentional”.

When do they take a bong hit in the sequence?

[Viva la Ben]

Biden will win in a landslide if he is the Democratic nominee.

Getting this done early.

[Willie Kool]

So, I guess the question is how many moderates/republicans will only vote for Biden vs how many leftists will only vote for Sanders/Warren.

Warren voters are just democrats and will vote for Biden.

There is definitely a far left part of the Sanders bloc that wouldn't vote for Biden.

The same idiots who are responsible for Trump... I would hope some learned their lesson...

[tifosi77]

I'm a big fan of piece of **** politicians being held to task.

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1138476445204959234

I saw this yesterday, but forgot to comment on it.

There could well be legitimate reasons why half that committee was absent for that hearing. But we're closing in on 9/11+20 years, so they no longer receive the benefit of the doubt here. I have no idea what possible reason there is for not advancing this legislation, or if it's a one-sided or bipartisan dropping of the ball. The bill has overwhelming support of both caucuses in both houses of Congress, and it gives all those numpties a chance to #neverforget again and make for a splashy signing ceremony in the Rose Garden. And yet...

I don't get it.

[shafnutz05]

https://nypost.com/2019/06/12/house-pan ... t-shaming/

The bill, sponsored by Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), will need to be scored by the Congressional Budget Office before it can get a full vote in the House, but is expected to pass, as the legislation has 313 bipartisan co-sponsors.

The Senate version, sponsored by Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, also has bipartisan support, but it’s still short of a veto-proof majority.

The White House has yet to respond to requests for comment on whether President Trump supports the legislation.

The bill keeps the current fund going until Oct. 1, 2090. Previous bills only allowed victims of the terror attacks — including the first responders — to file claims in five-year periods. The new bill also doesn’t cap the funds allocated to assist the victims.

[Troy Loney]

https://www.axios.com/state-official-ku ... d8a99.html

Jared playing Secretary of State is going to be one of these stories that is revealed as quite a stain on US history when it gets fully exposed.

[tifosi77]

Yeah, I mean, the retort from the left is, just get to 50 in the senate, and ram M4A through reconciliation. Which would obviously be quite tenuous.

It's more than tenuous, I don't think the existing proposed bills can be passed through reconciliation.

[tifosi77]

Re 9/11 bill

A spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell didn’t respond to a request for comment on whether McConnell would support the bill coming to the floor.

The White House also didn’t respond to comment when asked if President Trump would sign it.