Politics And Current Events

[count2infinity]

Watched the Shapiro/BBC thing last night. I think people are making a bigger deal out of it than what it was. Pretty much just a reporter that wasn't willing to engage into the Shapiro schtick and Shapiro got pissed and decided to end the interview.

That said, were the roles reversed, Shapiro would be posting the interaction everywhere showing how he pwnd the liberal media.

[Nittany Ned]

The Krassenstein brothers are little men. The Wohl’s of the left. Pathetic.

[count2infinity]

The who?

[Morkle]

The earth will still be around, it’s just that humans only have another 100 - 200 years.

I don't know if you're joking, but 100-200 years seems incredibly short. Especially the advances in technology, etc.

[Troy Loney]

Watched the Shapiro/BBC thing last night. I think people are making a bigger deal out of it than what it was. Pretty much just a reporter that wasn't willing to engage into the Shapiro schtick and Shapiro got pissed and decided to end the interview.

That said, were the roles reversed, Shapiro would be posting the interaction everywhere showing how he pwnd the liberal media.

Its just the fact that the guy conducting the interview is a prominent British conservative, and Shapiro's response was to call him a liberal for holding an opposing viewpoint. Just shows that Shapiro is a fraud and has only one retort to everything.

[CBear3]

The Krassenstein brothers are little men. The Wohl’s of the left. Pathetic.

Something I actually agree with Ned on. It is possible.

[Troy Loney]

The Krassenstein brothers are little men. The Wohl’s of the left. Pathetic.

Something I actually agree with Ned on. It is possible.

It's an objective fact.

[Morkle]

Trump's tweets on Tariff's with China seem incredibly dumb.

I say openly to President Xi & all of my many friends in China that China will be hurt very badly if you don’t make a deal because companies will be forced to leave China for other countries. Too expensive to buy in China. You had a great deal, almost completed, & you backed out!

There is no reason for the U.S. Consumer to pay the Tariffs, which take effect on China today. This has been proven recently when only 4 points were paid by the U.S., 21 points by China because China subsidizes product to such a large degree. Also, the Tariffs can be.....

...completely avoided if you buy from a non-Tariffed Country, or you buy the product inside the USA (the best idea). That’s Zero Tariffs. Many Tariffed companies will be leaving China for Vietnam and other such countries in Asia. That’s why China wants to make a deal so badly!...

..There will be nobody left in China to do business with. Very bad for China, very good for USA! But China has taken so advantage of the U.S. for so many years, that they are way ahead (Our Presidents did not do the job). Therefore, China should not retaliate-will only get worse!

[Morkle]

Couple those dumb comments with the $15 billion subsidies he's requesting to protect farmer's from this trade war, seems even more ridiculous.

Dude openly hurts his base, then he may or may not be able to protect his base, and people still hang-on. Farmer's getting worked right now.

[count2infinity]

Watched the Shapiro/BBC thing last night. I think people are making a bigger deal out of it than what it was. Pretty much just a reporter that wasn't willing to engage into the Shapiro schtick and Shapiro got pissed and decided to end the interview.

That said, were the roles reversed, Shapiro would be posting the interaction everywhere showing how he pwnd the liberal media.

Its just the fact that the guy conducting the interview is a prominent British conservative, and Shapiro's response was to call him a liberal for holding an opposing viewpoint. Just shows that Shapiro is a fraud and has only one retort to everything.

I would say "radical left" in USA is far closer to centrist/conservative European than "radical right" is. So I'd imagine compared to Shapiro, the dude is pretty liberal. I have no data to back that up though as I don't know the guy.

[Troy Loney]

Watched the Shapiro/BBC thing last night. I think people are making a bigger deal out of it than what it was. Pretty much just a reporter that wasn't willing to engage into the Shapiro schtick and Shapiro got pissed and decided to end the interview.

That said, were the roles reversed, Shapiro would be posting the interaction everywhere showing how he pwnd the liberal media.

Its just the fact that the guy conducting the interview is a prominent British conservative, and Shapiro's response was to call him a liberal for holding an opposing viewpoint. Just shows that Shapiro is a fraud and has only one retort to everything.

I would say "radical left" in USA is far closer to centrist/conservative European than "radical right" is. So I'd imagine compared to Shapiro, the dude is pretty liberal. I have no data to back that up though as I don't know the guy.

Shapiro is also 100% islamophobe, culture warrior brand conservative. His economic views probably don't extend much beyond calling every democrat a socialist. The GA law banning abortion after six-weeks is draconian, unless your position is that abortion is murder and should be illegal, which is not a view held by many outside the US conservative culture warriors.

[Troy Loney]

Trump's tweets on Tariff's with China seem incredibly dumb.

I say openly to President Xi & all of my many friends in China that China will be hurt very badly if you don’t make a deal because companies will be forced to leave China for other countries. Too expensive to buy in China. You had a great deal, almost completed, & you backed out!

There is no reason for the U.S. Consumer to pay the Tariffs, which take effect on China today. This has been proven recently when only 4 points were paid by the U.S., 21 points by China because China subsidizes product to such a large degree. Also, the Tariffs can be.....

...completely avoided if you buy from a non-Tariffed Country, or you buy the product inside the USA (the best idea). That’s Zero Tariffs. Many Tariffed companies will be leaving China for Vietnam and other such countries in Asia. That’s why China wants to make a deal so badly!...

..There will be nobody left in China to do business with. Very bad for China, very good for USA! But China has taken so advantage of the U.S. for so many years, that they are way ahead (Our Presidents did not do the job). Therefore, China should not retaliate-will only get worse!

I saw the sunday show highlight from yesterday was that Chris Wallace got Larry Kudlow to admit that tarriffs are paid by the importer.

BREAKING NEWS - A TARIFF IS A TAX ON IMPORTED GOODS.

We deserve every stupid thing that happens to us in this country.

[Freddy Rumsen]

Watched the Shapiro/BBC thing last night. I think people are making a bigger deal out of it than what it was. Pretty much just a reporter that wasn't willing to engage into the Shapiro schtick and Shapiro got pissed and decided to end the interview.

That said, were the roles reversed, Shapiro would be posting the interaction everywhere showing how he pwnd the liberal media.

Its just the fact that the guy conducting the interview is a prominent British conservative, and Shapiro's response was to call him a liberal for holding an opposing viewpoint. Just shows that Shapiro is a fraud and has only one retort to everything.

I would say "radical left" in USA is far closer to centrist/conservative European than "radical right" is. So I'd imagine compared to Shapiro, the dude is pretty liberal. I have no data to back that up though as I don't know the guy.

The American right and the European right do not have a whole lot in common when it comes to individual rights and too many of the populist conservative TV show people don't understand this. So they go to Europe and champion people like Orbon and shad's girl Le Pen who are not all that into the same things they are.

[shmenguin]

The GA law banning abortion after six-weeks is draconian, unless your position is that abortion is murder and should be illegal, which is not a view held by many outside the US conservative culture warriors.

using "life" as the demarcation point for abortion policy is the equivalent of arresting people for not watering a houseplant. "life" isn't remarkable. it's everywhere. you can throw a half eaten sandwich under a radiator and witness "life" happening pretty easily. how about cognition? memory? capacity to suffer?

[Troy Loney]

The GA law banning abortion after six-weeks is draconian, unless your position is that abortion is murder and should be illegal, which is not a view held by many outside the US conservative culture warriors.

using "life" as the demarcation point for abortion policy is the equivalent of arresting people for not watering a houseplant. "life" isn't remarkable. it's everywhere. you can throw a half eaten sandwich under a radiator and witness "life" happening pretty easily. how about cognition? memory? capacity to suffer?

Yeah, it's just trotting out laws that are designed to ban abortion, but don't explicitly sat "abortions are banned".

And in the end, all this does is make it seem like maybe the civil war should have just ended with a break up of the USA. I would rather not care about what these southern states are doing.

[CBear3]

The GA law banning abortion after six-weeks is draconian, unless your position is that abortion is murder and should be illegal, which is not a view held by many outside the US conservative culture warriors.

using "life" as the demarcation point for abortion policy is the equivalent of arresting people for not watering a houseplant. "life" isn't remarkable. it's everywhere. you can throw a half eaten sandwich under a radiator and witness "life" happening pretty easily. how about cognition? memory? capacity to suffer?

That tomato plant won't grow up to be able to do algebra, neither will the moldy sandwich.
I'm 100% pro-choice, but equating babies to parasites and house plants is disingenuous.

There has to be acknowledgement in the discussion that should the mother decide to carry the baby to term what it will become.

[count2infinity]

The GA law banning abortion after six-weeks is draconian, unless your position is that abortion is murder and should be illegal, which is not a view held by many outside the US conservative culture warriors.

using "life" as the demarcation point for abortion policy is the equivalent of arresting people for not watering a houseplant. "life" isn't remarkable. it's everywhere. you can throw a half eaten sandwich under a radiator and witness "life" happening pretty easily. how about cognition? memory? capacity to suffer?

That tomato plant won't grow up to be able to do algebra, neither will the moldy sandwich.
I'm 100% pro-choice, but equating babies to parasites and house plants is disingenuous.

There has to be acknowledgement in the discussion that should the mother decide to carry the baby to term what it will become.

I'd be more inclined to go along with this line of thinking if it continued after the child was born... "just think what this baby could be if put in the right situation".

[shmenguin]

That tomato plant won't grow up to be able to do algebra, neither will the moldy sandwich.
I'm 100% pro-choice, but equating babies to parasites and house plants is disingenuous.

it's many things. it's not disingenuous. i don't think you're much different than a toaster - even if you can solve for X.

...but you have to sort of abandon your notion of existence/humanity/free will/etc to hop on board here.

[Freddy Rumsen]

[Gaucho]

The GA law banning abortion after six-weeks is draconian, unless your position is that abortion is murder and should be illegal, which is not a view held by many outside the US conservative culture warriors.

using "life" as the demarcation point for abortion policy is the equivalent of arresting people for not watering a houseplant. "life" isn't remarkable. it's everywhere. you can throw a half eaten sandwich under a radiator and witness "life" happening pretty easily. how about cognition? memory? capacity to suffer?

That tomato plant won't grow up to be able to do algebra, neither will the moldy sandwich.
I'm 100% pro-choice, but equating babies to parasites and house plants is disingenuous.

There has to be acknowledgement in the discussion that should the mother decide to carry the baby to term what it will become.

I'd be more inclined to go along with this line of thinking if it continued after the child was born... "just think what this baby could be if put in the right situation".

ANOTHER HITLER

[Willie Kool]

maybe the civil war should have just ended with a break up of the USA. I would rather not care about what these southern states are doing.

Or maybe it should have ended with the executions of all who freely served the Confederacy, and with 40 acres and a mule being the actual fate of Dixie.

[Freddy Rumsen]

WK would have gotten his wish and I wouldn't be here then.

Of course Phil Sheridan's men literally raping my great-great-grandma and nearly killing her in the process almost accomplished that...

[Guinness]

The GA law banning abortion after six-weeks is draconian, unless your position is that abortion is murder and should be illegal, which is not a view held by many outside the US conservative culture warriors.

using "life" as the demarcation point for abortion policy is the equivalent of arresting people for not watering a houseplant. "life" isn't remarkable. it's everywhere. you can throw a half eaten sandwich under a radiator and witness "life" happening pretty easily. how about cognition? memory? capacity to suffer?

Yeah, "life" - generally speaking - isn't remarkable. Human life however is totally re-****-markable, and a helluva lot more noteworthy than a sandwich.

Cognition? Memory? Capacity to suffer? Are these the milestones you want to establish to dignify "life"? Particularly "human life"? This line of thought has all the intellectual weight of a beach ball.

Human life is particularly noteworthy, magnificent and precious because of it's capacity for reason and intellect, varying in sophistication throughout it's lifespan from beginning to end. The hoops one must jump through to contradict this viewpoint are brutally dishonest, at best.

To address another post, briefly... I understand the leftist critique of the "conservative" pro-life position... but unfortunately that critique is borne (pardon the pun) wholly out of a complete misapprehension of the position - leftists wrongly presume that "conservatives" only favor life in the womb... read Jonathan Haidt, if you have any intellectual curiosity... the conservative pro-life position actually is 100% logically consistent. Where the conservative argument breaks down is upon nationalism, not Welfare.

[Guinness]

maybe the civil war should have just ended with a break up of the USA. I would rather not care about what these southern states are doing.

Or maybe it should have ended with the executions of all who freely served the Confederacy, and with 40 acres and a mule being the actual fate of Dixie.

Excellent example of what really lurks in the heart of every true leftist right here. Their socialist machinations rarely fail to manifest mass murder.

[count2infinity]

I dig the alliteration.