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Postby NTP66 » Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:11 pm

This whole “nobody wants to work/people are lazy” thing from taint fondlers like this is almost comical. What really happened is that workers finally had enough and are pushing back on **** jobs and **** working environments.

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Postby King Colby » Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:19 pm

I dont want to work

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Postby shafnutz05 » Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:25 pm

I dont want to work
Todd Rundgren was right

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Postby nocera » Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:16 pm

Most people don’t mind work if they’re fairly compensated. Nobody wants to work **** jobs for **** wages anymore is more accurate.

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Postby faftorial » Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:21 pm

My first job was in 1983 and I made $3.35 which inflation adjusted is $9.61 so low wage pay has increased quite a bit.

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Postby RonnieFranchise » Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:24 pm

By the time I started working at Wendy's in 1987 the minimum wage was... still $3.35. I remember working an entire shift paid for one CD.

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Postby mikey » Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:41 pm

My first real job was on a farm doing **** work for five something an hour...did what I had to do to keep things going as my mom was almost completely useless and my dad's work got real slow after 9/11...but it's rough right now it seems, something is gonna break and cause a ripple effect...and then we'll have to watch a bunch of movies about it 5 to 7 years later...

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:55 pm

Today in "blatantly unconstitutional political acts"...

Even other Democrats recognize that it's blatantly unconstitutional. So far the Albuquerque police chief, Albuquerque mayor, Bernalillo County sheriff, Bernalillo County district attorney, and New Mexico Attorney General—all Democrats—have all said that they won't enforce or defend the order.

are you saying Little Bill’s “no firearms in Big Whiskey” ordinance in Unforgiven was unconstitutional??

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Postby Shyster » Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:13 am

are you saying Little Bill’s “no firearms in Big Whiskey” ordinance in Unforgiven was unconstitutional??

It would have been, yes.

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Postby Lelldorin » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:12 am

You guys should really read "Bullshit Jobs" by David Graeber. It is a bit too long and repetitive, but has several interesting points. For example that people can make a shitload of money without doing much work, but still feel sad because their jobs are unnecessary or even detrimental to the society.

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Postby count2infinity » Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:48 am

Lauren Boebert escorted out of Beetlejuice the musical for vaping, recording, and singing loudly. Apparently during the process, she hit them with everyone’s favorite “do you know who I am?!?!” :lol:

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Postby Gaucho » Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:22 am

:lol:

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Postby faftorial » Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:36 am

Trash

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Postby faftorial » Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:37 am

And she may not make it through the next election. Here's hoping at least.

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Postby Troy Loney » Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:36 am

She's Sarah Palin without any of the political talents or success/accomplishments

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Postby CBear3 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:29 am

are you saying Little Bill’s “no firearms in Big Whiskey” ordinance in Unforgiven was unconstitutional??

It would have been, yes.
A) the declaration of a state of emergency and suspended concealed permits likely is unconstitutional by method...
B) Bruen's history test dated back to 1900, required analogous laws to be on the books, and for it be part of the "tradition" of America. There's plenty of local, firearm restricting laws on the books prior to 1900.

Obviously biased source here, but it does a decent job providing examples and the problems with "historical tradition."
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/202 ... homas.html

In essence, Thomas's test introduced in Bruen is vague and leaves a lot of gray area as to the judgement. Expanded (because the second is no different than any other amendment), it changes the interpretation of every Amendment to terms of "What have we done before? Sure, lets just keep doing that."

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... historical

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:35 pm

The 'tradition' part of Bruen is uncommonly dense.

Also, Big Whiskey in "Unforgiven" was in 1880 Wyoming, which was a U.S. Territory at that time. Similar real-life public carry restrictions in Wyoming and other so-called 'Western Territories' were I believe actually cited by NY while Bruen was litigated. (Iirc these Territories were pretty much the lands obtained via the Louisiana Purchase, the Mexican-American War, and the related Native genocide which had yet to coalesce into Statehood) There was no question of the technical applicability of the Constitution to U.S. Territories. But as I understand it, SCOTUS in Bruen more or less said "so what" to that on two fronts. The opinion states that while the Constitution applied, the existence of such firearms restrictions in Territories (which were 'transitional' and 'temporary' governments) were not instructive to proper interpretation of the Second Amendment, as they were essentially free to govern as they pleased with little oversight from Washington.

So.......... were there constitutional grounds at the time to challenge the legal authority of carry prohibitions in 1880 Wyoming? Yes. As a functional matter, would it have amounted to anything at the time? No. Does the existence of those restrictions provide valid guidance for modern lawmaking re firearms? Also no. So it's not so much that Little Bill’s “no firearms in Big Whiskey” ordinance was unconstitutional, it's that no one cared if constitutional protections were religiously enforced in bumblef**k Wyoming in 1880.

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:39 pm

In other news

Romney to Retire, Calling For a ‘New Generation’ Beyond Biden and Trump
The Utah Republican and 2012 G.O.P. presidential nominee, 76, said he would step aside to make way for younger leaders and strongly suggested the president and former president should, too.

Senator Mitt Romney of Utah, the 2012 Republican nominee for president who made a historic break with his party when he voted to remove former President Donald J. Trump from office, announced on Wednesday that he would not seek re-election in 2024, saying he wanted to make way for a “new generation of leaders.”

He strongly suggested that Mr. Trump, 77, and President Biden, 80, should follow his lead and bow out to pave the way for younger candidates, arguing that neither was effectively leading his party to confront the “critical challenges” the nation faces.

“At the end of another term, I’d be in my mid-80s. Frankly, it’s time for a new generation of leaders,” Mr. Romney, 76, said in a video statement. “They’re the ones that need to make the decisions that will shape the world they will be living in.”

The announcement was in some ways the culmination of a long divergence between Mr. Romney, a genteel and wealthy former governor and traditional conservative, and the Republican Party, which has veered sharply to the right and embraced a coarser brand of partisanship in recent years.

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Postby dodint » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:40 pm

Yes. Thank you.

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Postby Troy Loney » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:43 pm

Wow, what a provocative statement.

Romney is such a vanilla coward

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Postby Rylan » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:45 pm

eh...Romney has his faults, but this isn't one of them.

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:47 pm

Lauren Boebert escorted out of Beetlejuice the musical for vaping, recording, and singing loudly. Apparently during the process, she hit them with everyone’s favorite “do you know who I am?!?!” :lol:
It seems she also claimed she was on the board of a Denver city cultural commission. The sheer concept of which is worth at least two hoots.

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Postby RonnieFranchise » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:48 pm

Good, not like anyone listens to Romney but sadly this won't move the needle to convince people not to vote for near-octogenarians. And in fact if Trump is the nominee I'll vote for Biden, so it won't convince me either.

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Postby mikey » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:50 pm

Troy hates guy that became self aware in political thread. :lol:

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Sep 13, 2023 5:54 pm

Romney is a coward. He says one thing but his votes say otherwise.

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