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Postby mikey » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:36 pm

Yeah, because there's no capital gains tax or anything...

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:14 pm

They want government to stay out of everything until a bank fails, and they start demanding that they all be bailed out. **** them all.

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Postby count2infinity » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:26 pm

Yup. Privatize profit, socialize loss. It’s how it works.

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Postby Gaucho » Sun Mar 12, 2023 2:33 pm

It's either that or Venezuela, sorry.

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Postby King Colby » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:00 pm

Also sounds like a bunch of startups had all their deposits in just this bank? Like Roku might be screwed or something.

Another normal thing that smart companies do is use different banks to ensure their deposits are all fdic insured. This is all just lazy **** because all these companies are run by tech guys that think they’re smarter than everyone and don’t have to do things that actual smart companies do.
65,000 startup companies had their deposits in SVB. 96% of their accounts are too large for full FDIC coverage. That number at BofA is 38%. Everything about their risk management and diversification is a joke.
BofA deez nuts

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Postby Willie Kool » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:36 pm

Peter Thiel pulled his money out days before the collapse
And then started the run on the bank by advising all his clients and other HF's to withdraw their funds. How much you want to bet that he went short on the stock before doing so?

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Postby Willie Kool » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:38 pm

Full disclosure: I need $175 to get even after l bought 5 shares at the bottom Friday morning at $35 hoping for a quick flip.

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:43 pm

Peter Thiel pulled his money out days before the collapse
And then started the run on the bank by advising all his clients and other HF's to withdraw their funds. How much you want to bet that he went short on the stock before doing so?
Oh, 1000% he did this.

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Postby willeyeam » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:57 pm

I wonder what the fine line is. Like, if I'm CFO with stock options, you're a moron if you go down with the ship right? But if you sell before it looks super shady.

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 3:58 pm

That’s a different scenario than shorting the stock, though.

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Postby Troy Loney » Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:02 pm

I wonder what the fine line is. Like, if I'm CFO with stock options, you're a moron if you go down with the ship right? But if you sell before it looks super shady.
Insider trading rules seem pretty straightforward

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Postby mikey » Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:36 pm

Problem solved...


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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:40 pm

What a dumb idea

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:51 pm

I’ll wait for a source other than Aladdin to believe it.

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Postby Willie Kool » Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:58 pm

The current interest rate environment has had dramatic effects on the profitability and risk profile of banks’ funding and investment strategies. First, as a result of the higher interest rates, longer term maturity assets acquired by banks when interest rates were lower are now worth less than their face values. The result is that most banks have some amount of unrealized losses on securities. The total of these unrealized losses, including securities that are available for sale or held to maturity, was about $620 billion at yearend 2022.
https://www.fdic.gov/news/speeches/2023/spmar0623.html

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Postby willeyeam » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:10 pm

I wonder what the fine line is. Like, if I'm CFO with stock options, you're a moron if you go down with the ship right? But if you sell before it looks super shady.
Insider trading rules seem pretty straightforward
Well I'm not an insider and don't know the rules so that's why I'm wondering

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Postby Troy Loney » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:19 pm

I wonder what the fine line is. Like, if I'm CFO with stock options, you're a moron if you go down with the ship right? But if you sell before it looks super shady.
Insider trading rules seem pretty straightforward
Well I'm not an insider and don't know the rules so that's why I'm wondering
Can’t make trades based on material non public information

It’s why most responsible orgs have rules around people making trades that have access to valuable info

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Postby faftorial » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:19 pm

Meatball Ron is blaming the bank collapse on wokeness:
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis,
who is expected to enter the 2024 GOP nomination race later this year, suggested the bank’s collapse was related to the institution being distracted by diversity, equity and inclusion goals. He often argues such efforts go too far.

“This bank, they’re so concerned with DEI and politics and all kinds of stuff, I think that really diverted from them focusing on their core mission,” he said Sunday on Fox News.
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/silico ... _lead_pos2

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Postby nocera » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:33 pm

Mic’d up players are always so boring. Where’s Ian Moran when you need him?

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Postby nocera » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:34 pm

Banks.
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Postby NTP66 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:34 pm

I have no idea if you meant to post this in a different thread, but I will always love Moran for his mic’d up moments.

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Postby nocera » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:36 pm

I have no idea if you meant to post this in a different thread, but I will always love Moran for his mic’d up moments.
Definitely did but it’s way more interesting than bank bailouts.

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Postby Willie Kool » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:37 pm

Get Woke, Go Broke...

From last May: https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/bill-ackm ... apitalism/
Pershing Square Capital boss Bill Ackman and tech billionaire Peter Thiel are among the investors backing an upstart fund that’s aiming to lead a movement against politically influenced “stakeholder capitalism.”

Dubbed Strive Asset Management, the fund was founded by pharmaceutical investor Vivek Ramaswamy – who also authored a best-selling book called “Woke, Inc.” that published last year.
This was so obviously an orchestrated hit job by Theil, Ackman, etc.
Ramaswamy said his firm will attempt to directly compete with asset management giants such as BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street.

“The Big 3 asset managers have fueled this polarizing new trend in corporate America, and that’s why we’re going to compete with them head-on to refocus American companies on the shared pursuit of excellence over politics,” Ramaswamy added.
Vanguard, Blackrock and State Street just happen to be the 3 largest shareholders in SIVB...

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:38 pm

He’s going to compete with VG? Lol

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Postby Troy Loney » Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:45 pm

Meatball Ron is blaming the bank collapse on wokeness:
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis,
who is expected to enter the 2024 GOP nomination race later this year, suggested the bank’s collapse was related to the institution being distracted by diversity, equity and inclusion goals. He often argues such efforts go too far.

“This bank, they’re so concerned with DEI and politics and all kinds of stuff, I think that really diverted from them focusing on their core mission,” he said Sunday on Fox News.
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/silico ... _lead_pos2
Sometimes I wish I were dumb enough to just believe this.

It would make life so much easier being that stupid

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