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Postby faftorial » Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:26 pm

No, poor liquidity risk management caused the failure.

You’re supposed to hedge so that your bank doesn’t fail when your bonds lose value
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Shyster's post looking the blame the fed. :face:

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Postby Shyster » Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:40 pm

Please. Politicians of all stripes have been telling us for decades that gov bonds are the most secure investments ever and that the US government has never defaulted on its debt. No one has ever been accused of poor risk management by investing in government bonds. And the only reason those bonds have lost value is government action. The federal government caused this bank failure.

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Postby willeyeam » Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:43 pm

You need to either do better if you're trolling or just watch less fox news if not. Idk which one

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Postby Shyster » Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:43 pm

No, poor liquidity risk management caused the failure.

You’re supposed to hedge so that your bank doesn’t fail when your bonds lose value
:thumb:

Shyster's post looking the blame the fed. :face:
The fed (and the fedgov) caused the inflation, which caused the bonds to lose value, which caused the investment loss, which caused the bank failure. When A is the direct cause of B, and B is the direct cause of C, and C is the direct cause of D, then A (the fed) is the cause of D (the bank failure).

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Sat Mar 11, 2023 11:50 pm

I try not to miss a chance to bash the Fed for injecting the American masses with the opiate known as low interest rates

But this isn't the feds fault not by a long shot

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Postby count2infinity » Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:21 am

It’s weird how not every bank in the country is in crisis mode since the interest rates apply to all of them.

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Postby Troy Loney » Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:21 am

Please. Politicians of all stripes have been telling us for decades that gov bonds are the most secure investments ever and that the US government has never defaulted on its debt. No one has ever been accused of poor risk management by investing in government bonds. And the only reason those bonds have lost value is government action. The federal government caused this bank failure.
And “they” also tell everyone investing money to diversify. Probably a concept more fundamental than the strength of the us treasury bond

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:22 am

Yes, very weird. It's almost as if this particular bank didn't properly evaluate their risk when taking on that debt.

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Postby MR25 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:44 am

That would be because the previous admon loosened the regulations


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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sun Mar 12, 2023 9:57 am

Lol the government's fault

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:07 am

Rumors going strong that PNC is going to acquire SVB.

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Postby count2infinity » Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:36 am

Hold up… the fed didn’t cause PNC to go under AND they’re a “woke” bank? Heads are exploding right now.

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Postby willeyeam » Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:40 am

The woke mob is controlling the banking industry now

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Postby willeyeam » Sun Mar 12, 2023 10:40 am

Just how Soros drew it up

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:00 am

“…but I’ll continue to refuse to testify against him, and will support and vote for him if he’s the 2024 nominee.”


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Postby Troy Loney » Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:02 am

I really don’t think it’s a coincidence that a bank that established itself to cater to vcs and startups didn’t establish sound risk management functions.

Like, you can try to make this something bigger than it is. But normal (real) banks have disciplined routines that manage credit and liquidity risk. Sounds like this bank just ignored those principles and dumped most of their reserves into treasury bonds.

It’s like, “we’ll show them, why do we need to pay economics and finance guys, when they’re just going to tell us to put it into bonds anyways”

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Postby Troy Loney » Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:08 am

Also sounds like a bunch of startups had all their deposits in just this bank? Like Roku might be screwed or something.

Another normal thing that smart companies do is use different banks to ensure their deposits are all fdic insured. This is all just lazy **** because all these companies are run by tech guys that think they’re smarter than everyone and don’t have to do things that actual smart companies do.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:22 am

this is what the sleuths have discovered



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Postby NTP66 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:24 am

Peter Thiel pulled his money out days before the collapse, as did his buddies. I’m sure there was no insider information on this at all, it’s just pure coincidence. Yes, pure coincidence.

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Postby Viva la Ben » Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:28 am

Very principled behavior.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:30 am

Also sounds like a bunch of startups had all their deposits in just this bank? Like Roku might be screwed or something.

Another normal thing that smart companies do is use different banks to ensure their deposits are all fdic insured. This is all just lazy **** because all these companies are run by tech guys that think they’re smarter than everyone and don’t have to do things that actual smart companies do.
65,000 startup companies had their deposits in SVB. 96% of their accounts are too large for full FDIC coverage. That number at BofA is 38%. Everything about their risk management and diversification is a joke.

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:31 am

But why didn’t the government make sure this didn’t happen? Thanks, Biden!

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Postby faftorial » Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:58 am

“…but I’ll continue to refuse to testify against him, and will support and vote for him if he’s the 2024 nominee.”


Pence seems to think if he shames Trump he'll drop out of the race.

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Postby Troy Loney » Sun Mar 12, 2023 12:01 pm

this is what the sleuths have discovered


Knew it, too woke

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Postby crusherstasiak » Sun Mar 12, 2023 1:33 pm

this stuff isn't of much interest to me but from what i've gathered would it be at in the ballpark to conclude that these tech gazzilionnaires are all for privatization when it comes to their wealth and socialism when it comes to to their debt? or so it seems to me anyway

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