Ehhh... it was dismissed because the "election was stolen" but now they should know that this recipe ain't gonna work.Heard that before
What? I think yesterday's results show the exact opposite. There's no way the dems lose the white house in 2024.I really hope Trump decides to run for POTUS. I think Trump going nuclear during the primaries is the only way the democrats hold onto the white house in 2024 - unless inflation disappears within the next 12 months, and I sure don't see that happening.
Yep, not sure people are appreciating how Trump has switched his brand to an influence peddling operation. He has all the leverage in the party negotiations, so mostly likely case is Desantis is forced to wait till 2028This is where I'm putting all my election betting odds money.I'm hoping for a Trump 3rd party run for President. Now is the time for the MAGA party.
Between yesterday and today, DeSantis gained 12% (currently at 27%) as the next President in election betting markets. Trump lost 14% (currently at 18%).That didn't take long
This would help the GOP more than the dems. GOP is gonna lose anyway in 2024. That would serve as the Trump divorce for future elections.I'm hoping for a Trump 3rd party run for President. Now is the time for the MAGA party.
I don't know man, desantis is a pretty mean spirited guy and legislates out of spite. He will drum up plenty of motivation from demsTrump motivates democrats and undecideds to go out and vote against him. DeSantis won't elicit that same emotional response from the opposition. I think it's pretty clear if the GOP wants to win the WH, it has to be DeSantis.IMO, the obvious answer is DeSantis. That dude is going to have a huge following, and everyone's putting to him saving Florida.For the more traditional republicans/conservatives in this thread that have voted against trump/his ilk - who would you like to see run for president?
DeSantis flipped miami-dade and other traditionally blue counties in Florida. So that's something. But I don't know enough about his policies to be able to answer the obhave question tbh. For me to vote I'd need somebody that I'm excited about voting for and I don't see that happening any time soonTrump motivates democrats and undecideds to go out and vote against him. DeSantis won't elicit that same emotional response from the opposition. I think it's pretty clear if the GOP wants to win the WH, it has to be DeSantis.IMO, the obvious answer is DeSantis. That dude is going to have a huge following, and everyone's putting to him saving Florida.For the more traditional republicans/conservatives in this thread that have voted against trump/his ilk - who would you like to see run for president?
I seem to recall that in the last couple weeks before the primary, yes.Weren't the Dems buying ads to promote him during primaries knowing he'd be an easy win (for the Dems) come yesterday? Or was that someone else.I can't think of a worst candidate for any political office.Mastriano only won Lancaster County by about 5 points. Oz won by 17.
Yes, my fear is that the takeaway will be that 'Trump' is the problem, not Trumpism.The only issue is if it's not Trump, it'll just be a Trump 2.0 candidate
That was what I was going for. DeSantis doesn't seem like the candidate for the Republicans that voted democrat because of MAGA. His policies are very similar to Trump or what the MAGA people want. He just has more political cunning, from what I've discernedI thought obhave was asking who moderate Republicans want to see on a national ticket. Not which extremist they'll ultimately put there.
For people who have been following, yes absolutely. Trump is on another level. The democrats will have to do some work to put the spotlight on DeSantis. With Trump they'd just sit back and let his reputation do the work.I don't know man, desantis is a pretty mean spirited guy and legislates out of spite. He will drum up plenty of motivation from demsTrump motivates democrats and undecideds to go out and vote against him. DeSantis won't elicit that same emotional response from the opposition. I think it's pretty clear if the GOP wants to win the WH, it has to be DeSantis.IMO, the obvious answer is DeSantis. That dude is going to have a huge following, and everyone's putting to him saving Florida.For the more traditional republicans/conservatives in this thread that have voted against trump/his ilk - who would you like to see run for president?
To support this MTG is to get more political power with her re-election, which means trumpism is not dead.Yes, my fear is that the takeaway will be that 'Trump' is the problem, not Trumpism.The only issue is if it's not Trump, it'll just be a Trump 2.0 candidate
It's hard to overcome the sway he holds, because so many of 'his' candidates murder durdured the viable option in the primary process; by and large GOP voters in most of the country still have a favorable view ofTrump. The fudgey middle bit that might vote either way, the 3-5% that's up for grabs in most elections, want no part of Donald John anymore. They were willing to have a laugh and try "what have you got to lose" in 2016, but this is now three elections in a row where the Trumpy stuff has gotten progressively worse results.
Every indication - even the betting odds! - was that 2022 was going to be a big deal, and it ended up being a raindrop.
haha is this true? Why has nobody on the red side ever pointed out that Trump blames everything and anyone else before him. I don't know how people handle that, but man that has to be tiring.**** face trump blaming his wife on the losses is pure gold. We're back baby
I know it doesn't work this way as 8 years would've elapsed, a very turbulent 8 years, but this was the 2016 GOP Primary field:That was what I was going for. DeSantis doesn't seem like the candidate for the Republicans that voted democrat because of MAGA. His policies are very similar to Trump or what the MAGA people want. He just has more political cunning, from what I've discernedI thought obhave was asking who moderate Republicans want to see on a national ticket. Not which extremist they'll ultimately put there.
Unlike that poser Ben Franklin. He was born in Boston!!!Fetterman may be flawed but he is a Real Pennsylvanian.
When you're right you're right, what can I say.Solid point.
Give me Mark CubanI know it doesn't work this way as 8 years would've elapsed, a very turbulent 8 years, but this was the 2016 GOP Primary field:That was what I was going for. DeSantis doesn't seem like the candidate for the Republicans that voted democrat because of MAGA. His policies are very similar to Trump or what the MAGA people want. He just has more political cunning, from what I've discernedI thought obhave was asking who moderate Republicans want to see on a national ticket. Not which extremist they'll ultimately put there.
Donald Trump
Ted Cruz
John Kasich
Ben Carson
Jeb Bush
Rand Paul
Mike Huckabee
Carly Fiorina
Chris Christie
Jim Gilmore
Rick Santorum
George Pataki
Lindsey Graham
Bobby Jindal
Mark Everson
Scott Walker
Rick Perry
Out of that group I was most behind Kasich, but he's 70 now. Nobody else jumps out at me anymore, so I imagine it has to be a completely fresh face that is also not smeared in Trump feces. That's going to be tough. Maybe The Rock?
Is he even a Republican?Source of the post Give me Mark Cuban
I think he's independent. He's made some comments he'd align with republicans if they weren't crazy. I thinkIs he even a Republican?Source of the post Give me Mark Cuban
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