Politics And Current Events

[Gaucho]

Since the end of March, Ukraine has taken back more territory than it has lost.

[dodint]

Sounds like our limited intervention was prudent.

[RonnieFranchise]

Kind of incredible given the political makeup of York that the Governor and Lt Governor are both Democrats who grew up there.

I had two separate girlfriends with the same first name in the early 90s, one went to York College and the other lived there. Neither was deserving of the title of Mrs. Franchise.

Actually one dumped me like hot garbage when we went back to our separate colleges and the other was sleeping with everybody. Facts.

[count2infinity]

Was visiting my folks today in Bedford County. The mail lady dropped off a small package to my dad. He opened it up and it was a couple of Fetterman signs. I asked him why he needed 2. He said “well, the first one is definitely getting stolen. I went through 6 Biden signs before I hung it on the barn instead of in the front yard. Why? You want one?”

[shafnutz05]

This is honestly an awful idea. Just irresponsible.

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2022/07/30 ... monkeypox/

[shafnutz05]

Also, quotes like these are maddening

“Monkeypox is already suffering from stigma so I think that’s another reason to be very careful with fully associating gay and bisexual men and monkeypox,” said Dr. Jorge Salinas, a Stanford University hospital epidemiologist. “This is an infectious disease that does not discriminate.”

This is politics invading medicine. Something like 97% of cases are gay men. A medical doctor should be strongly advising the event to be canceled. It's reckless and it will likely be a superspreader event

[meow]

I have no issue with adults making their own choices and living with the consequences of those actions.

[count2infinity]

I can understand the stigmatizing idea, but at the same time, there’s a reality that the disease is largely among that population at the moment.

For instance, I see it no different from when covid hit. My brother planned a visit and I asked him to cancel it. He lives in Manhattan. Good chance he would be infected at the time. Turned out to be correct as he had it right around the time he planned to visit.

At the same time, you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think there are people staying away from gay men (even monogamous/married ones) on purpose in areas that the disease haven’t hit yet because of the outbreak in the cities. I’d imagine that’s the stigmatization they’re concerned about.

[King Colby]

I have no issue with adults making their own choices and living with the consequences of those actions.

Yes. Nobody is forcing anyone to go to the event

[Gaucho]

[MR25]

Also, quotes like these are maddening

“Monkeypox is already suffering from stigma so I think that’s another reason to be very careful with fully associating gay and bisexual men and monkeypox,” said Dr. Jorge Salinas, a Stanford University hospital epidemiologist. “This is an infectious disease that does not discriminate.”

This is politics invading medicine. Something like 97% of cases are gay men. A medical doctor should be strongly advising the event to be canceled. It's reckless and it will likely be a superspreader event

Only popping in to ask this question/raise a point, then I'll pop back out:

Are 97% of cases gay men because only gay men are contracting it, or is it because we're only testing gay men and extreme outliers with the rash due to the early perception of the disease, and not the general population who develop the same symptoms?

Anecdotal evidence, but there was a woman in Pittsburgh a couple weeks ago who came down with monkeypox/a monkeypox-like rash, but no one would test her for it because she wasn't a gay man, and those places she went for testing were not prepared to test for monkeypox specifically.

Seems like this is all another public health failure akin to early COVID in terms of unpreparedness to deal with a new-ish virus coming into the population.

[Trip McNeely]

**** animals

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/30/world/vi ... index.html

[crusherstasiak]

the ultimate bad lie

[Gaucho]

heh

[CBear3]

Re: Monkeypox; It’s also fewer people than attend a WNBA game in the grand scheme of things.

[shafnutz05]

Also, quotes like these are maddening

“Monkeypox is already suffering from stigma so I think that’s another reason to be very careful with fully associating gay and bisexual men and monkeypox,” said Dr. Jorge Salinas, a Stanford University hospital epidemiologist. “This is an infectious disease that does not discriminate.”

This is politics invading medicine. Something like 97% of cases are gay men. A medical doctor should be strongly advising the event to be canceled. It's reckless and it will likely be a superspreader event

Only popping in to ask this question/raise a point, then I'll pop back out:

Are 97% of cases gay men because only gay men are contracting it, or is it because we're only testing gay men and extreme outliers with the rash due to the early perception of the disease, and not the general population who develop the same symptoms?

Anecdotal evidence, but there was a woman in Pittsburgh a couple weeks ago who came down with monkeypox/a monkeypox-like rash, but no one would test her for it because she wasn't a gay man, and those places she went for testing were not prepared to test for monkeypox specifically.

Seems like this is all another public health failure akin to early COVID in terms of unpreparedness to deal with a new-ish virus coming into the population.

Those questions are relevant, but not in this instance. There is very clearly a widespread outbreak in the gay community. The prudent course of action is to not hold events like that. Like others have said, if they want to have a good time and face the consequences, let them.

[tifosi77]

Also, quotes like these are maddening

“Monkeypox is already suffering from stigma so I think that’s another reason to be very careful with fully associating gay and bisexual men and monkeypox,” said Dr. Jorge Salinas, a Stanford University hospital epidemiologist. “This is an infectious disease that does not discriminate.”

This is politics invading medicine. Something like 97% of cases are gay men. A medical doctor should be strongly advising the event to be canceled. It's reckless and it will likely be a superspreader event

Only popping in to ask this question/raise a point, then I'll pop back out:

Are 97% of cases gay men because only gay men are contracting it, or is it because we're only testing gay men and extreme outliers with the rash due to the early perception of the disease, and not the general population who develop the same symptoms?

Anecdotal evidence, but there was a woman in Pittsburgh a couple weeks ago who came down with monkeypox/a monkeypox-like rash, but no one would test her for it because she wasn't a gay man, and those places she went for testing were not prepared to test for monkeypox specifically.

Seems like this is all another public health failure akin to early COVID in terms of unpreparedness to deal with a new-ish virus coming into the population.

Remember when AIDS was called GRID.

[count2infinity]

I do not remember that. No.

[faftorial]

I do not remember that. No.

[Dickie Dunn]

I do because I just googled it.

[NTP66]

Saw a headline the other day that said that heterosexuals now outpace homosexuals in getting HIV.

[Gaucho]

*flex*

[King Colby]

Guessing more widespread PrEP usage among sexually active homosexuals

and more butt stuff for straighties

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

do they include newborns who are infected in the womb into that stat? I wonder how much, if any, sway that has

[tifosi77]

None of you schmoes at least saw "And The Band Played On"?