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Postby Viva la Ben » Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:56 am

The resident middle aged, obese virgin coincidentally aligns with white nationalist incel culture and has very specific opinions about reproductive health even though he has only blown his loads into a tube sock or gun barrel.

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Postby NTP66 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:19 am

:lol:

People dodint about CNN, MSNBC, etc., but nobody does this better than Fox News. Nobody. Fearmongering 101.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:20 am

the immigration thing is funny. After visiting Big Bend, I learned that the border itself isn’t really guarded (at least around the Rio Grande). I myself crossed the river into Mexico

but there’s a **** ton of border patrol as you get deeper into the US. Crossing the border itself isn’t a huge thing

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Postby MWB » Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:47 am


Who the heck knows which would be worse.
The pregnant woman knows of course. That’s why it should be her decision.

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Postby Gaucho » Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:50 am


Who the heck knows which would be worse.
The pregnant woman knows of course. That’s why it should be her decision.
ding ding ding

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Postby MWB » Fri Jul 15, 2022 7:52 am

It’s interesting that a person who thinks it is impossible and completely out of the realm of possibility for the state to decide who is qualified to own a gun is ok with the state being in charge of who gets a child.

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Postby NTP66 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:03 am

This guy can fall into a well, too.


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Postby skullman80 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:13 am

It’s interesting that a person who thinks it is impossible and completely out of the realm of possibility for the state to decide who is qualified to own a gun is ok with the state being in charge of who gets a child.
It's because it doesn't affect him at all. I don't mean that in a bad way, but I think Shyster has made it plenty clear that he only looks out for himself in general with regards to laws and how he votes for things.

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Postby faftorial » Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:24 am

It’s interesting that a person who thinks it is impossible and completely out of the realm of possibility for the state to decide who is qualified to own a gun is ok with the state being in charge of who gets a child.

"Abortion ain't in the constitution pal."

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Postby MR25 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:22 am



He's not wrong. The media spends way too much time both-sidesing everything and treating Republican extremism as legitimate politicking as opposed to what it actually is.

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Postby Gaucho » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:53 am

You'd think getting raped and ending up pregnant is about the worst that could happen to a 10-year-old. And then you live in a red state and the GOP says hold my beer. It's beyond vile.

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Postby crusherstasiak » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:54 am

You'd think getting raped and ending up pregnant is about the worst that could happen to a 10-year-old. And then you live in a red state and the GOP says hold my beer. It's beyond vile.
which is why it's so very very important to vote for :checks notes:
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Postby Gaucho » Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:57 am

"One day she'll understand."

ffs

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Postby count2infinity » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:12 pm

I merely note that according to a pro-abotion organization's own surveys, the leading reason for abortion in this country is "I don't want to parent a(nother) child." But no woman has to parent or otherwise be legally responsible for any child in this country; every state has a safe-haven law that permits mothers to relinquish infants to the state without being liable for child endangerment, abandonment, or neglect (interestingly, the same does not apply for fathers). While abortion fulfills the same objective (i.e., not becoming a parent), it is not the exclusive remedy to that particular problem.
I'm curious as to what significance you think this stat lends to the discussion. Not to be too snarky, but yeah... women get abortions because they don't want to have a kid. You cracked the case...

As others have pointed out, I don't think you fully comprehend the toll that pregnancy can potentially have on a woman, not only that but the toll that motherhood can have on a woman. To put another way: women aren't incubators. They are people with physical and mental health issues that pregnancy can (and often does) have SEVERE impacts on both. My wife and I stopped at one because of the toll pregnancy and motherhood took on her body and mental state. I've seen it first hand, it can be debilitating.
Source of the post And, yes, carrying a pregnancy to term, having the baby, and giving it up for adoption is serious and potentially traumatic event that is difficult to quantify. So is aborting a pregnancy. Who the heck knows which would be worse.
As to this part... I don't have any data to show a mother carrying a baby to full term and then giving it away for adoption vs. an abortion. That study might be out there and I'm just not aware of it... but there has been a study on a group of women that wanted to have an abortion, some were able to get it and others, for whatever reason, were not and essentially forced to become a mother:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaps ... le/2592320

They found that going through with the abortion led to less anxiety, better self-esteem, better life satisfaction and similar levels of depression. So in the case of wanting an abortion but not being able to get one, the data shows being denied the abortion is worse.

There was also a study out of Finland of under 18 year olds that reported similar findings:

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article ... 42/2914026

No psychiatric differences between the women who got abortions and those that didn't 7 years later, but the group that did receive the abortions were better off financially and better educated than the group that went through with the pregnancy.

How about regret?

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/artic ... ne.0128832

Women who receive abortions reported at a 95% clip that the abortion was the correct choice 3 years after the fact.

What about an abortion due to an abusive partner?

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/a ... 014-0144-z

Women tend to stay with or at least have continued contact with abusive partners if forced to give birth rather than receiving an abortion.

Pretty much all the data lines up to say that when a woman wants an abortion, they are usually right and it causes less harm (on average) mentally, physically, financially, and the list goes on. Sure there are outliers, but those are the norms.

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Postby eddy » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:45 pm

This is pretty much the simplest thing to answer. It's up to the woman to decide if they want to have it or not. Go **** yourself if you think you can answer that better than the woman in that situation.

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:05 pm

So are we just meant to pretend there wasn't a Karsh sighting itt or what?

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Postby faftorial » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:11 pm

So are we just meant to pretend there wasn't a Karsh sighting itt or what?
"Who dis?"

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:13 pm

Do you remember BK (Brother Karsh) from el gippy?

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Postby faftorial » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:14 pm

Do you remember BK (Brother Karsh) from el gippy?
No, who is he here?

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Postby Gaucho » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:19 pm

I follow him on twitter.

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:23 pm

Do you remember BK (Brother Karsh) from el gippy?
No, who is he here?
He's the 'Jason Karsh' of the tweet MR shared above about US media not being at all prepared to combat fascism.

I mean....... BK's real name was Jason, and the dude in that tweet profile sure looks like him (we hung out once literally 20 years ago), but I can't be positive.

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Postby faftorial » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:40 pm

PG has an article up on the people waiting for loan forgiveness from Biden and all the comments I read are against it. No noceras or mr25s making their case. I like the idea of the 10K forgiveness but it's hugely unpopular idea in general.

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Postby dodint » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:42 pm

That is some poor sampling. A city paper comments section.

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Postby nocera » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:43 pm

The kind of person who would comment on a Post Gazette article isn't likely the same kind of person who would support loan forgiveness.
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