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Postby tifosi77 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:19 pm



Yes, the law should reflect the will of the people. Conservatism is a cancer
"The will of the people" can be twisted to some pretty nefarious ends.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:33 pm



Yes, the law should reflect the will of the people. Conservatism is a cancer
"The will of the people" can be twisted to some pretty nefarious ends.
So can basically any legal interpretation. But to pretend that the law is independent of that will and bound to some other abstract concept/truth is a fallacy.

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Postby crusherstasiak » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:36 pm

It's pretty cut and dry. Keep religion out of schools means all damn religion.
yup

and the automatic counter-factual response 'were the the shoe on the other foot' mumbo jumbo is often a manifestation of ones dissatisfaction with affirmative action

islamophobia and an expression of islamic faith by a teacher/football coach are both noxious

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:29 pm



How do people go through life learning so little?

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Postby count2infinity » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:39 pm

Remember when they were all so worried about Sharia law coming to the United States? Pepperidge Farms remembers...

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Postby shoeshine boy » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:41 pm

which church would she like to be in charge? if the Lutherans (ELCA) get to run things it's party time! if the baptists are in charge, not so much......

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:43 pm

which church would she like to be in charge? if the Lutherans (ELCA) get to run things it's party time! if the baptists are in charge, not so much......
You are thinking way too hard here. She means the white people church (it's not like this woman has any idea what anything means besides that she's "Christian".

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Postby Beveridge » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:26 pm

Most vocal "Christians" don't know what Christian means.

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:32 pm

Don't you just hold a bible up in front of a church or something? It's been a while since my catholic school days

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Postby meow » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:34 pm

I think you treat poors and minorities like **** but act like you are a humanitarian

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Postby AuthorTony » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:42 pm

Dude doesn't even know it's yinz.

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Postby meow » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:43 pm

Oh that’ll scare em

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Postby Shyster » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:50 pm



Yes, the law should reflect the will of the people. Conservatism is a cancer
If the Court followed polls, then it never would have ruled the way it did in Roe in the first place. And the Court never would have struck down "separate but equal" in Brown, because that decision was unpopular. So was Miranda. Who the eff wants to give criminal scum "get out of jail free" cards?

The whole reason that all federal judges have tenure during "good behavior" is so they don't have to pay attention to polls.

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Postby Shyster » Mon Jun 27, 2022 6:51 pm

So now that the GOP set it’s sights on rolling back rights for homosexuals who here is still going to pull that gop level? Anyone here think they don’t deserve the same rights as heterosexuals?
The GOP isn't advocating for that.

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Postby Shyster » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:14 pm

Just overturning precedent wherever you look. Stare decisis my assis.
A state employee should have the right to pray, but they shouldn't be doing it on the public's dime. It's not like you're holding games and pausing for the Maghrib so you "have" to pray right then. Under this ruling, I could start every hour of class by standing in front of the room and praying the rosary.
No, you could not. As explained by the Court, "The contested exercise before us does not involve leading prayers with the team or before any other captive audience." "Mr. Kennedy did not seek to direct any prayers to students or require anyone else to participate."

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Postby willeyeam » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:43 pm

"Not required"

Reminds me of "optional" practices before the season officially started

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:51 pm

Just overturning precedent wherever you look. Stare decisis my assis.
A state employee should have the right to pray, but they shouldn't be doing it on the public's dime. It's not like you're holding games and pausing for the Maghrib so you "have" to pray right then. Under this ruling, I could start every hour of class by standing in front of the room and praying the rosary.
No, you could not. As explained by the Court, "The contested exercise before us does not involve leading prayers with the team or before any other captive audience." "Mr. Kennedy did not seek to direct any prayers to students or require anyone else to participate."
Not really a meaningful basis for arguing anything these days.

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:53 pm



Yes, the law should reflect the will of the people. Conservatism is a cancer
If the Court followed polls, then it never would have ruled the way it did in Roe in the first place. And the Court never would have struck down "separate but equal" in Brown, because that decision was unpopular. So was Miranda. Who the eff wants to give criminal scum "get out of jail free" cards?

The whole reason that all federal judges have tenure during "good behavior" is so they don't have to pay attention to polls.
This was all great and good until the conservative party decided that they needed to use their political positions to pollute the judicial branch with hack judges

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Postby Shyster » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:38 pm

Please. The only "hack" thing about the judges or their decisions is that you disagree with them on the outcome.

Half of the country apparently went to "internet law school" over the last three days. :roll:

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Postby Troy Loney » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:44 pm

Please. The only "hack" thing about the judges or their decisions is that you disagree with them on the outcome.

Half of the country apparently went to "internet law school" over the last three days. :roll:
Internet law school is just recognizing the profession for what it is.

But i'm happy for you and your fed soc but buddies. Get to root for all your cases winning when the outcomes are predetermined. Must feel good.

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Postby MWB » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:51 pm

Just overturning precedent wherever you look. Stare decisis my assis.
A state employee should have the right to pray, but they shouldn't be doing it on the public's dime. It's not like you're holding games and pausing for the Maghrib so you "have" to pray right then. Under this ruling, I could start every hour of class by standing in front of the room and praying the rosary.
No, you could not. As explained by the Court, "The contested exercise before us does not involve leading prayers with the team or before any other captive audience." "Mr. Kennedy did not seek to direct any prayers to students or require anyone else to participate."
Doing so after a game, on the field, in front of your team, whether spoken or not, is a form of direction, or could be perceived that way by players.

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Postby MWB » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:58 pm

Please. The only "hack" thing about the judges or their decisions is that you disagree with them on the outcome.

Half of the country apparently went to "internet law school" over the last three days. :roll:
Solid legal reasoning could be given on either side of most of these issues. Hell, you could give a solid interpretation of 2A that restricts guns. If that was the case, you would vehemently disagree, but would it be a invalid disagreement?

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Postby Shyster » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:01 pm

Solid legal reasoning could be given on either side of most of these issues. Hell, you could give a solid interpretation of 2A that restricts guns. If that was the case, you would vehemently disagree, but would it be a invalid disagreement?

Nope. But neither would I call the judges advancing that argument "hacks."

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Postby MWB » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:27 pm

If a judge presented one line of thinking in order to get confirmed and then decided cases differently from that stated line of thinking when it was time to decide cases, is that how a judge should act?

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