Politics And Current Events

[Morkle]

Manchin is disappointed.

lol that guy sucks.

[Viva la Ben]

A local (to me) library system was asked by their board to remove the LBTQ+ Pride month displays or risk funding cuts.

In my new county, and I think I mentioned this a few pages ago, our county council quietly held a cloture vote to rescind their Pride Month Celebration proclamation from the record. No announcements, just a procedure vote without mentioning what that proclamation was about. This was due to several church leaders complaining to Council members about celebrating the gays in a Christian community. This is also the same area that overwhelming voted out the GOP congressman that voted to impeach Trump.

But it's been slowly happening, and these rulings will empower even more of it.

Not stopping there.

[eddy]

Has Biden said go out and make your voice heard yet? Can't wait until nothing comes from the Jan 6 hearings. Dems are worthless.

[Troy Loney]

Grim stuff here. This hack collection of judges really stepped in it here, now democrats forced to actually confront reality that the judges on the court are just a bunch of hacks

[eddy]

**** guns and religion. So **** dumb.

[Troy Loney]

And, to be clear, despite evidence to the contrary and actions that I have taken, I think that is bad.

[shafnutz05]

I've already seen several people update their Facebook photos to that RBG silhouette...bit of cognitive dissonance there.

[obhave]

I remember being told that I was irrational for my fears on women's right, reproductive rights, and my queer rights. Today (and really the overall direction of the court with the other rulings this week) has really hit hard.

I live in a state where I have many protections, but I am upset for the country and people who live in more conservative states. And continue to worry where we are headed.

[King Colby]

Nearly all women most likely? My wife and I were hyper critical of pregnancy because it took us 2 years to conceive, and being critically on top of it - we still didn't find out until after six weeks. Probably around 7-8 I think based on timing.

My wife knew all 3 around 2-3 weeks

[obhave]

That's like 6 weeks, I wonder how many people don't even know they're pregnant yet at that point

People may know from home test, but by the time you get an appointment to confirm and make a decision you are past that time. Hell, they wouldn't even see me until I was 8 weeks as a part of procedure.

[King Colby]

Susan Collins is the biggest liar in politics IMO

[Gaucho]

I remember being told that I was irrational for my fears on women's right, reproductive rights, and my queer rights. Today (and really the overall direction of the court with the other rulings this week) has really hit hard.

I live in a state where I have many protections, but I am upset for the country and people who live in more conservative states. And continue to worry where we are headed.

And Freddy and NP would still tell you you're overreacting.

[King Colby]

That's like 6 weeks, I wonder how many people don't even know they're pregnant yet at that point

People may know from home test, but by the time you get an appointment to confirm and make a decision you are past that time. Hell, they wouldn't even see me until I was 8 weeks as a part of procedure.

Very true. For our 3rd and current pregnancy, she wasn't even seen until her first sonogram around 10 or 12 weeks.

[Troy Loney]

I've already seen several people update their Facebook photos to that RBG silhouette...bit of cognitive dissonance there.

I don't disagree, but this commentary is rich from a GOP voter (and someone that I assume supported all of McConnell's antics and the Trump SCOTUS nominations). Like, the criticism is that RBG didn't retire in 2013, I agree she should have, but like, shouldn't this really fall on the fed soc shitheads that put three ideologues on the court to pair with the two legacy garbage judges?

Like when do we get to hold conservatives accountable for being terrible as opposed to liberal not stopping them from being terrible.

[King Colby]

I've already seen several people update their Facebook photos to that RBG silhouette...bit of cognitive dissonance there.

A nation for idiots by idiots

[mikey]

Welp...I'm surprised and disappointed.

Which I guess is something I could just rewind and hit play on for the last few years...

[Morkle]

That's like 6 weeks, I wonder how many people don't even know they're pregnant yet at that point

People may know from home test, but by the time you get an appointment to confirm and make a decision you are past that time. Hell, they wouldn't even see me until I was 8 weeks as a part of procedure.

Very true. For our 3rd and current pregnancy, she wasn't even seen until her first sonogram around 10 or 12 weeks.

This is what I was referring to. We knew from the home test - but based on getting seen it wasn't "confirmed" until after the six weeks mark. We had specialist doctors involved, were very keen on the process, and would still lose out in today's world lol.

[Morkle]

Operationally though, are people upset that this ruling is really a pushback to states rights, or is it because there needs to be blanket control from the overall government.

The hate big government in me actually finds it OK that states dictate what they do for their constituents.

[shafnutz05]

I've already seen several people update their Facebook photos to that RBG silhouette...bit of cognitive dissonance there.

I don't disagree, but this commentary is rich from a GOP voter (and someone that I assume supported all of McConnell's antics and the Trump SCOTUS nominations). Like, the criticism is that RBG didn't retire in 2013, I agree she should have, but like, shouldn't this really fall on the fed soc shitheads that put three ideologues on the court to pair with the two legacy garbage judges?

Like when do we get to hold conservatives accountable for being terrible as opposed to liberal not stopping them from being terrible.

I admittedly never thought Roe would get overturned--I thought that was a political/judicial hot potato. So clearly I was wrong there.

I am pro-life in the majority of cases, but I've always felt the best way to lower abortions/unwanted pregnancies is through prevention, not legislation. Sex education, free access to birth control, etc. This ruling fills me with more generalized dread about the future of the country than anything else.

[Trip McNeely]

Half of positive pregnancy tests are just chemical pregnancies anyways. The fetus doesn’t take and a woman’s HCg levels drop to normal levels. Most people would never even know they were pregnant

[obhave]

Operationally though, are people upset that this ruling is really a pushback to states rights, or is it because there needs to be blanket control from the overall government.

The hate big government in me actually finds it OK that states dictate what they do for their constituents.

I believe there are some rights that must be a blanket from the top. So I guess a nuance there? I'm not all big give or all states rights personally.

[shafnutz05]

With that said, I have never thought there was a constitutional right to abortion. The original 1973 ruling was a pretty gigantic leap in using the privacy clause. Setting the real-life implications of this overturning aside, it probably does make more sense for that to be left to the states. But that's easier said than done after Roe is settled law for a half century.

[Morkle]

Right, I think there needs to be oversight across the board to keep some things in check. Abortion is probably one of them - but fundamentally, I like the states dictating the rules where I live.

[Troy Loney]

Operationally though, are people upset that this ruling is really a pushback to states rights, or is it because there needs to be blanket control from the overall government.

The hate big government in me actually finds it OK that states dictate what they do for their constituents.

This isn't a States' rights thing though, that is just a farce to make people believe that the opinion is rooted in some sort of technicality.

I mean, we think that the state of MS should be allowed to determine whether abortion is legal, but NY can't make laws about concealed carry permits?

[Trip McNeely]

The constitution is stupid. It’s even stupider when the idea of an amendment to it is impossible