2017-2018 Penn State Football thread

Postby **count2infinity** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:58 am

Is the basics here ups needs osu to lose two games to make the playoff?

Maybe... I'd have to actually look it up, but I believe if PSU beats MSU next weekend, and OSU loses to MSU, Penn State would be in the B1G championship assuming they win out from there.

Postby **slappybrown** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:05 am

But then osu and ups both have one Conf loss and msu would have two so osu wins tiebreak

Postby **count2infinity** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:06 am

Oh sh*t... didn't realize MSU lost yesterday. Nevermind. Yes, two losses are needed.

Postby **count2infinity** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:07 am

In other words: we're f*cked.

Postby **tifosi77** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:24 am

Maybe there's something that a CFB regular gets that I as a tourist do not, but a 1-point road loss to a top-ten team doesn't really get me bent. Granted the play calling from the sidelines and the decision making by players on the field left a lot be desired, but I don't see this game as some sort of indictment.

Postby **mac5155** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:39 am

In other words: we're f*cked.

By last year's logic though, we're not?

Postby **count2infinity** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:53 am

Maybe there's something that a CFB regular gets that I as a tourist do not, but a 1-point road loss to a top-ten team doesn't really get me bent. Granted the play calling from the sidelines and the decision making by players on the field left a lot be desired, but I don't see this game as some sort of indictment.

The L last night more or less locks us out of playoff contention. In a vacuum a 1-point road loss to a top-ten team isn't anything to lose sleep over. Looking at the season and what could have been, the loss is bigger. I'm certainly not calling for Franklin's head like some others, but this pretty much torpedoes a potentially great season.

Postby **mac5155** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:28 pm

Were a one loss, non conference champion. That got OSU into the big show last year.

Postby **Beveridge** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:32 pm

And them getting beat down is a good reason not to make that same mistake again this year.

Postby **Orlando Penguin** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:32 pm

Not to be a Pitt homer but I don't see how PSU is a top 4 team at this point, at least in the playoff committee rankings. They place a big emphasis on who you've beaten and frankly at this point PSU hasn't beaten anyone of note. Michigan is an okay win but nothing like Clemson vs Auburn or at VT. I'd guess they'll be in the 7-8 range.

Fortunately, they don't make their decisions until December 3. All of this silliness that they're promoting for Tuesday night is just to fool sponsors into buying ad time.

Postby **Orlando Penguin** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:34 pm

Fun stat (not really):

Prior to 2016, number of times PSU scored 38 or more in a game and lost -- 0
Since 2016, number of times PSU scored 38 or more in a game and lost -- 3

Postby **Kicksave** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:34 pm

“Maybe Penn State should have been aborted.”
-Kicksave

I still contend that was all taken out of context.

Postby **columbia** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:37 pm

What evidence do we have that OSU is good? Not only that, but good enough to be a 6.5 point favorite? I get that Penn State hasn't shown much this year other than a gutsy win in Kinnick and defeating a pretty obviously not very good Michigan... That said OSU got pounded by Oklahoma and have played cupcakes other than that. I have no doubt they're a great team, but there's just not a ton of evidence to show it to me.

Has your opinion changed?

Postby **MR25** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:49 pm

Were a one loss, non conference champion. That got OSU into the big show last year.

Not quite. It also took Mississippi St beating #4 Texas AM, Pitt beating #2 Clemson, Iowa beating #3 Michigan, and Houston beating #5 Louisville AFTER the OSU loss.

Penn State was also unranked going into the game, if I'm reading this correctly.

Completely different set of circumstances.

Postby **count2infinity** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:57 pm

What evidence do we have that OSU is good? Not only that, but good enough to be a 6.5 point favorite? I get that Penn State hasn't shown much this year other than a gutsy win in Kinnick and defeating a pretty obviously not very good Michigan... That said OSU got pounded by Oklahoma and have played cupcakes other than that. I have no doubt they're a great team, but there's just not a ton of evidence to show it to me.
Has your opinion changed?

Prior to the game, there wasn't much evidence to support them being a 6.5 point favorite. After the game, I'm not so sure there's enough evidence to support them being a 6.5 point favorite. So in that respect, no.

In the respect of is OSU the better team... I think it's obvious they're a better team than PSU. And they're likely the best team in the B1G.

Postby **Sam's Drunk Dog** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:00 pm

PSU needs to win out and have either OSU lose 2 Big 10 games, or have OSU win out and beat Wisconsin, and have ND, Clemson, and Miami lose.

Postby **slappybrown** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:41 pm

People don't actually want to fire franklin do they

Postby **Sam's Drunk Dog** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:42 pm

People don't actually want to fire franklin do they

If they are a moron, and we all know there are plenty in this world, so yes.

Postby **shafnutz05** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:23 pm

I enjoyed seeing OSU fans rush the field when they were a 6.5 point favorite.

I too thought that was lame but it's impossible for me to say that now without just sounding bitter

I'm pretty much over last night...I really hope the coaching staff learned a lesson, but at the end of the day, Ohio State was clearly the better team. The staff was gifted a TON of opportunities, and they failed in that respect.

Postby **shafnutz05** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:25 pm

Not sure if there will be more or less drama with Bama and Georgia basically having two spots wrapped up, unless one of them blows one. Which can always happen

They will play in the SEC title game, but I don't think for a second the loser will end up outside the Top 4 (and they shouldn't)

Postby **columbia** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:27 pm

UPS Pitted that game away.

Postby **Blue Canary** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:23 pm

That was a really fun game. I'm ok with a one point loss on the road despite the way it went.
It was fun while it lasted. I feel for the kids. "Gutted" isn't a strong enough word for how they must feel.

I'd like to think that, all things considered (including the fact that they were 6/6.5 underdogs on the road), PSU won't fall below 4th, but I won't hold my breath.

OSU's loss being nonconference hurts us in the B1G.
Not to be a Pitt homer but I don't see how PSU is a top 4 team at this point, at least in the playoff committee rankings. They place a big emphasis on who you've beaten and frankly at this point PSU hasn't beaten anyone of note. Michigan is an okay win but nothing like Clemson vs Auburn or at VT. I'd guess they'll be in the 7-8 range.

And you're right. 7.

Last year was last year, but #2 OSU lost on the road to unranked PSU and dropped only to 6th. So I was attempting to calibrate from that. Too simplistic, no dice.

Postby **count2infinity** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:30 pm

How do you call an illegal block on a team that just kicked the ball? I don't get it....

Postby **shafnutz05** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:43 pm

That Ohio State result makes this even more of a must win game. Chance to win the B10 is back again.

Postby **count2infinity** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:51 pm

Lolol. Giesiki is a psycho.