5AF's Premier College Football Thread: 2017-18 Pittsburgh Super Panthers Football Thread (and Basketball)

[Freddy Rumsen]

If Pitt grabs another 5th year transfer they'll not be able to sign a quality QB prospect for a while.

[slappybrown]

The perfect solution here is PIckett wins the job in August 2018 and we are set for three years.

I actually think this is what is going to happen. Pickett clearly has no idea what he's doing on the field yet -- he has no ability to audible, takes nearly the entire play clock to get a play off, etc. -- but just as clearly has so much more arm and athletic talent than either Brown or DiNucci. Those couple slants he hit to Weah were ropes and the only time this year I recall seeing a pass from a Pitt QB come out like that.

[Stoosh]

Also puts Pitt's QB depth (strictly from a numbers standpoint) back into question. Browne will be gone, DiNucci may get pissed enough to transfer, Pickett will either start or be #2, TMac apparently has no future at the position, Nick Patti is incoming and of questionable abilities. Best case scenario is 3 QBs on the roster for next season. Wouldn't surprise me if we dip into the grad transfer well again.

They also appear to be gaining momentum with another 2018 QB named Carter Bradley from Florida. He's a 3-star QB by both Rivals and 247sports, but he has some better offers than Patti does (Wisconsin, Louisville, Syracuse, WVU, Indiana, Purdue, and some higher-level non-P5 programs). It looks like Pitt is in his top three with Syracuse and Wisconsin.

I don't really recall seeing Pitt recruiting him until relatively recently, so I'm wondering if this has something to do with MacVittie eventually changing positions.

[Dickie Dunn]

Also puts Pitt's QB depth (strictly from a numbers standpoint) back into question. Browne will be gone, DiNucci may get pissed enough to transfer, Pickett will either start or be #2, TMac apparently has no future at the position, Nick Patti is incoming and of questionable abilities. Best case scenario is 3 QBs on the roster for next season. Wouldn't surprise me if we dip into the grad transfer well again.

They also appear to be gaining momentum with another 2018 QB named Carter Bradley from Florida. He's a 3-star QB by both Rivals and 247sports, but he has some better offers than Patti does (Wisconsin, Louisville, Syracuse, WVU, Indiana, Purdue, and some higher-level non-P5 programs). It looks like Pitt is in his top three with Syracuse and Wisconsin.

I don't really recall seeing Pitt recruiting him until relatively recently, so I'm wondering if this has something to do with MacVittie eventually changing positions.

That would be a welcome addition. Really would have been nice to get Doyle or Jurkovec in this recruiting class.

[slappybrown]

They passed on Doyle once they got Patti. They apparently told them both whoever was the next QB to commit would get the spot. Seems like a fair bet to assume that Tmac's struggles have led them to think they need to take another QB which is why Bradley is back in the picture.

[Stoosh]

Also puts Pitt's QB depth (strictly from a numbers standpoint) back into question. Browne will be gone, DiNucci may get pissed enough to transfer, Pickett will either start or be #2, TMac apparently has no future at the position, Nick Patti is incoming and of questionable abilities. Best case scenario is 3 QBs on the roster for next season. Wouldn't surprise me if we dip into the grad transfer well again.

They also appear to be gaining momentum with another 2018 QB named Carter Bradley from Florida. He's a 3-star QB by both Rivals and 247sports, but he has some better offers than Patti does (Wisconsin, Louisville, Syracuse, WVU, Indiana, Purdue, and some higher-level non-P5 programs). It looks like Pitt is in his top three with Syracuse and Wisconsin.

I don't really recall seeing Pitt recruiting him until relatively recently, so I'm wondering if this has something to do with MacVittie eventually changing positions.

That would be a welcome addition. Really would have been nice to get Doyle or Jurkovec in this recruiting class.

The most frustrating part of this is that from most reports, they never had a real chance to land Jurkovec. It was said that he and his family are lifelong ND fans. Given how early he committed and how there hasn't been one word about other programs still trying to recruit him, I'm guessing it's the case.

Venting time...

It highlights the roadblocks that Pitt has with recruiting in general, but especially with big-time local kids. Pitt's regional recruiting backyard is also well within geographical reach of the recruiting radars of four blueblood programs in UPS, Ohio State, Michigan and ND. That is what it is, though. They aren't going away so Pitt has to find ways around it.

Still, when you consider what those places can offer versus what Pitt can just in terms of current gameday experiences, it makes that hill even tougher to climb. To land a potential program-changing QB from your own backyard, you're basically left selling the ideas of staying home, playing in front of family and friends and being the big piece in the elevation of something new here. For kids who are talented enough to merit visits to those other schools, that's probably not enough so you hope like hell that the kid has always kind of entertained the idea of playing at Pitt.

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

Can Thomas tull buy the pitt athletic department too

[Morkle]

Pitt needs to do a better job breaking NCAA violations to entice kids here.

[slappybrown]

Pitt needs to build an on campus 45-50K seat stadium and make Oakland gameday great again.

[count2infinity]

Si.

[columbia]

Have NAN buy a house in Oakland and then tear it down for the new stadium. <insert attendance joke>

[Silentom]

All the seats would have boogers under them.

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

Still, when you consider what those places can offer versus what Pitt can just in terms of current gameday experiences, it makes that hill even tougher to climb. To land a potential program-changing QB from your own backyard, you're basically left selling the ideas of staying home, playing in front of family and friends and being the big piece in the elevation of something new here. For kids who are talented enough to merit visits to those other schools, that's probably not enough so you hope like hell that the kid has always kind of entertained the idea of playing at Pitt.

When it comes to recruiting, OK State has an uphill battle. TCU has an uphill battle. Baylor (when they aren't committing serious ethics violations) has an uphill battle. WVU has an outrageously tough uphill battle. Yet they get it done. Pitt fans (and the coaching staff itself) shouldn't cry in their beers about the unfairness in recruiting.

[Morkle]

I'd be really surprised if Pitt built another stadium. I couldn't imagine it, right now.

[slappybrown]

I'd be really surprised if Pitt built another stadium. I couldn't imagine it, right now.

They have spent 100K to analyze where it would and go and have a price tag for the relocation/construction for the preferred spot: $500mm. They better get working on it, because the Steelers are going to be agitating for a new stadium or massive renos to Heinz in the next few years. Their lease is up there in 2030 so its coming quick. I really doubt the Steelers would ever leave the North Shore given the economic incentives they have to not leave and the various business interests they have there, but if they move to Cranberry or Washington, what then? Pitt plays 25 miles from campus?

[count2infinity]

How do most Pitt students get to the game now? Bus? Walk?

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

Pitt leases a bunch of school buses to take the students to the game. You can also take a pat bus to downtown from oakland

[slappybrown]

Bus I assume. Walking is not an option.

[willeyeam]

i walked to oakland from south side once

[slappybrown]

i walked to oakland from south side once

That's not too bad depending on where in Oakland.

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

i walked to oakland from south side once

Did it once at 2 am in december while more or less drunk wearing a hoodie and jeans. These kids and their uber don't know how lucky they are

[columbia]

54C

[MrKennethTKangaroo]

Bus I assume. Walking is not an option.

As the crow flies, it really isn't all that much farther to get to Heinz field from Oakland than it is to get from parts of state college to beaver stadium. But the geography makes it seem way, way farther.

[Morkle]

I'd be really surprised if Pitt built another stadium. I couldn't imagine it, right now.

They have spent 100K to analyze where it would and go and have a price tag for the relocation/construction for the preferred spot: $500mm. They better get working on it, because the Steelers are going to be agitating for a new stadium or massive renos to Heinz in the next few years. Their lease is up there in 2030 so its coming quick. I really doubt the Steelers would ever leave the North Shore given the economic incentives they have to not leave and the various business interests they have there, but if they move to Cranberry or Washington, what then? Pitt plays 25 miles from campus?

lol I couldn't imagine a move to Cranberry or Washington. I'd like to see Pitt have it's own stadium, I think they should have done it all along.

[willeyeam]

i walked to oakland from south side once

Did it once at 2 am in december while more or less drunk wearing a hoodie and jeans. These kids and their uber don't know how lucky they are

mine was probably 2am in September.. back to Webster Hall by the Cathedral. Warmer, but not a pleasant walk wearing flip flops. Actually, most of it was barefoot, which looking back wasn't the greatest of ideas