All Things Guns & Ammo

[mac5155]

I try to Stay under 33 cents for 5.56 which is the only caliber I buy in bulk (bulk meaning more than 500 rounds).

[dodint]

When I was a contractor I had a friend who was still a Marine (we served together in the same unit, prior). He was/is a big time conspiracy theorist and would hoard ammunition. When funds got tight I would buy zip lock freezer bags full of 9mm and 5.56 rounds. I miss that guy.

[Shyster]

For rifle ammo like .223 I just wait until Palmetto State Armory has a sale on a case of something, then buy that. For handgun ammo I'm now rolling my own. I would imagine my per-round cost is actually quite high at the moment, because I'm still amortizing the expense of buying all of the reloading equipment and supplies in the first place. Considering I've spent a little over $2,000 on equipment and components and I've maybe loaded 800 rounds so far, that would mean each round to date cost me $2.50. That price of course drops the more rounds I load. I think I calculated when I started out that that it would take something like 10,000 rounds to break even.

[mac5155]

For those who hoard handgun ammo, do you just get standard loads or do you hoard hollow points / ballistic variants also?

[dodint]

Source of the post I think I calculated when I started out that that it would take something like 10,000 rounds to break even.

Is it legal to sell your own rolled ammo?

[Shyster]

Is it legal to sell your own rolled ammo?

One needs to be licensed as an FFL by the BATF in order to "engage in the business" of manufacturing ammunition. I would say that an occasional or irregular sale would not violate the law, such as a situation where a hunting buddy asks to buy a box of your ammo because he accidentally forgot to pack his before setting off for deer camp. If it's being done regularly or with the expectation of profit, however, then a license would be needed.

[dodint]

This never crossed my mind while buying freezer bags full of rounds from a guy on a federal installation.
Even more amusing since our office was in the back of the police station.

[mac5155]

Interesting because I've also bought ammo off STW Facebook pages. Haha

[tifosi77]

Be mindful of that. People have been convicted of crimes by zealous prosecutors for selling food through the Facebook groups.

[Shyster]

Neat. Shoot-though bore cleaning shotgun shells:

Gear Review: Huntego CleanShot Shoot-Thru Bore Cleaner Shells
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/0 ... e-cleaner/

I love the concept, although they are pretty expensive when one considers that a reusable 12-Gauge Hoppes bore snake can be had for under $15.

[Shyster]

Range report:

I took my Volquartsen Scorpion out today to do the long-delayed ammo testing. I had four different boxes of ammo that were advertised as match ammo: Fiocchi 300 Pistol Match, Aguila Pistol Match, Lapua Pistol King, and Norma Match 22. I was shooting at NRA-style "50-ft. pistol" targets at about 30 feet, and was shooting supported off a bench. Me being an idiot who almost always manages to forget something every trip, I forgot my pistol rest at home. All four of those ammos are standard velocity with a 40gr. lead bullet. As a sort of control, I also brought along some Armscor 36 gr. high-velocity hollowpoint ammunition. I recently picked up a 500-round brick of that stuff on sale. I would say of the match loads the Fiocchi and Lapua shot the best and offered the tightest groups. The Aguila was good but not as good as the others, and while the Norma shot pretty well, it was the only ammunition that offered any malfunctions (two failures to fire that both went bang when tried a second time).

The surprising thing of the day, however, was that the Armscor ammo didn't shoot any worse than the others, and in fact offered some excellent groups. I expected to see a notable difference between it and the match-grade ammunition, but that didn't really materialize. This gun can shoot way better than I can anyway, so I think the lesson is that ammo selection isn't really going to be all that important unless I decide to put a scope on it.

[mac5155]

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/west/ ... 1709070122

On the surface, this guy seemed like a nut job. But you read more about it, and this is a 'common sense gun control' conspiracy theorist's wet dream. What he did with the dogs sounds deplorable, but the man was a federally licensed firearms dealer.

[dodint]

Obama finally did it. The bastard.

[tifosi77]

I was about to click the link when I read "What he did with the dogs sounds deplorable". Yeah, I'm out. **** that guy, whatever he did.

[dodint]

[mac5155]

So I asked a buddy who lives in the area, and it does sound like this guy is a POS human. So, I rescind my comments.

[AuthorTony]

Would it be plausible to stroll into a generic armory in a post apocalyptic situation and find machine guns/ammunition? Asking for a friend.

[Shyster]

Ammunition maybe, depending on what machine gun we're talking about. If it's chambered in something common like 5.56 NATO or 7.62 Russian, then there's plenty of ammo out there because those calibers are quite common. If the chambering is something more obscure like 7.92×57mm Mauser, then you'd be less likely to find tons of ammo in any given store.

Machine guns less likely. Only a minority of gun dealers have gone through all of the extra paperwork and rigmarole necessary to sell NFA items. Most gun shops do not and cannot sell full-auto guns.

[tifosi77]

'Generic armory'

Like a military facility?

Ultimately, I think it depends on the specifics of the apocalypse your, er, your friend's scenario sets forth.

[AuthorTony]

There's a US national guard armory up the road from my house. They used to be a tank unit but now I believe they deal mostly with helicopters. I was actually just researching my next zombie book and wondering if, in a SHTF scenario, a group of survivors might possibly find machine guns in such a building or if that was too far fetched. But then again, it's a zombie book so...

[dodint]

Yes.

[Freddy Rumsen]

Looking at a S&W Performance Center M&P in .40

Good weapon for CC?

[Shyster]

Sure, although that's a big gun, which would make it harder to conceal.

[columbia]

There's a US national guard armory up the road from my house. They used to be a tank unit but now I believe they deal mostly with helicopters. I was actually just researching my next zombie book and wondering if, in a SHTF scenario, a group of survivors might possibly find machine guns in such a building or if that was too far fetched. But then again, it's a zombie book so...

If need you talk to someone who has seen several people inadvertently walk into a tail rotor, I'll ask my brother. Nasty stuff.

[Willie Kool]

If need you talk to someone who has seen several people inadvertently walk into a tail rotor, I'll ask my brother. Nasty stuff.

Maybe we should be talking about a helicopter ban...