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Postby NTP66 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:54 am

Now that more pics of the Bronco are out, I think I'll just keep looking for an old CJ.
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Postby Morkle » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:29 am

New Bronco is nice, but they have too many models and package types out of the gate. Some come with certain drive modes, others don't. The only one that has everything is the 60k+ first edition.

They look awesome, but I'm wondering if they're just complex by design to sell people with too much money a mall crawler.

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Postby Fire0nIce228 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:37 am


They look awesome, but I'm wondering if they're just complex by design to sell people with too much money a mall crawler.
Isnt that the point of 90% or more of the Jeeps and lifted trucks on the road today? I recently moved to Texas and never seen soo many pristine and clean lifted mud tired trucks on the freeways in my life..

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Postby Morkle » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:56 am


They look awesome, but I'm wondering if they're just complex by design to sell people with too much money a mall crawler.
Isnt that the point of 90% or more of the Jeeps and lifted trucks on the road today? I recently moved to Texas and never seen soo many pristine and clean lifted mud tired trucks on the freeways in my life..
With Jeeps, you know what you're getting into 3 main models wise though, Sport, Sahara, Rubicon (then these have special packages).

Broncos are the Sport, Bronco, Wildcat, Beast, Random Names, First edition

But there doesn't appear to be a consistency in what all the names get you. I'm a Jeep guy, so I understand bias, but they've made it complex lol

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Postby dodint » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:02 am

That's kind of Chevy's thing. The Camaro and Corvette. packages are all over the place. And the owners talk like the random letter salad is completely obvious.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:24 am

After the gr8 recession and oil crisis of the mid 2000s, the gladiator and bronco are a sign that america is BACK! nothing is more american that fuel inefficient, unnecessarily big, poorly performing vehicles. this is the true reward of the shale revolution and energy independence. f yeah

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Postby Morkle » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:25 am

There are 7 starting models to the Bronco; Base, Big Bend, Black Diamond, Outer Banks, Badlands, Wildtrack, First Edition

Then there's the Sport which is the escape replacement most likely. So 8 total variations of a first edition SUV.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:27 am

There are 7 starting models to the Bronco; Base, Big Bend, Black Diamond, Outer Banks, Badlands, Wildtrack, First Edition

Then there's the Sport which is the escape replacement most likely. So 8 total variations of a first edition SUV.
sorry i'm having a tough time reading this post, i keep on hearing a medley of charlie daniel's in america and god bless the usa for some reason

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:06 am

Looks like this is the new entry version of mine:


There is an MX+ available but it's $119, so, yeah, no.

Funny thing is I'm in the market for a BMW specific scanner/coder. Haven't decided on one yet. CBear?
Just got that Veepeak BTE scan tool I linked earlier and tested it out on the TL - worked beautifully. My upstream o2 sensor is showing no voltage at all, so I'm going to replace that and hope that it clears the CEL.

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Postby dodint » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:08 am

Awesome!

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:20 am

I'm using the OBD Fusion app ($10), for the record. It was actually recommended in the scanner's manual, and has like 11k 5-star reviews in the Apple store. I can't believe I have been using a basic cheapo scanner all these years when this stuff was available.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:13 pm

There are 7 starting models to the Bronco; Base, Big Bend, Black Diamond, Outer Banks, Badlands, Wildtrack, First Edition

Then there's the Sport which is the escape replacement most likely. So 8 total variations of a first edition SUV.
sorry i'm having a tough time reading this post, i keep on hearing a medley of charlie daniel's in america and god bless the usa for some reason
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Postby mac5155 » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:22 pm

I like the black diamond package.

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Postby offsides » Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:18 pm

Just watched a 1971 Bronco with 3 speed manual column shifter (302 V8) go for $75,000 on live Mecum auction in Indianapolis.

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Postby AuthorTony » Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:18 pm

Vintage Broncos are crazy expensive.

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Postby Faftorial » Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:31 pm

That's insane.

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Postby offsides » Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:55 pm

I could think of a few 1971 cars I might go $75,000 for but a Bronco sure ain't on the list.

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Postby NTP66 » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:54 pm

Replaced the firewall side o2 sensor only to still have the CEL remain on. :( Guess I’ll be taking it in to the shop after all. Even covid can’t prevent these big car repair bills.

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Postby offsides » Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:03 pm

Can't wait for electrics to take over. None of this exhaust system sensor stuff.

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Postby NTP66 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:20 am

Male them less expensive with further distance and more charging stations and you’ll get your wish. Until then, it’ll be the fringe.

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Postby mac5155 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:12 am

Replaced the firewall side o2 sensor only to still have the CEL remain on. :( Guess I’ll be taking it in to the shop after all. Even covid can’t prevent these big car repair bills.
By chance have you checked the fuse? My Honda would get a CEL for O2 sensor and it was the fuse. Found that out after replacing both sensors at lole 125 a clip

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Postby NTP66 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:56 am

Replaced the firewall side o2 sensor only to still have the CEL remain on. :( Guess I’ll be taking it in to the shop after all. Even covid can’t prevent these big car repair bills.
By chance have you checked the fuse? My Honda would get a CEL for O2 sensor and it was the fuse. Found that out after replacing both sensors at lole 125 a clip
I didn’t see a fuse for the o2 sensor, but will check the service manual again. The weird thing is that I see no voltage on the upstream o2 sensor, even the new one. Thinking that may be normal, though. The code was for poor cat conditions, so it very well could be a legit bad cat. I cleared the code yesterday, remembering that some cars require 50 miles of driving before a code clears, so we’ll see.

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Postby mac5155 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:18 pm

Replaced the firewall side o2 sensor only to still have the CEL remain on. :( Guess I’ll be taking it in to the shop after all. Even covid can’t prevent these big car repair bills.
By chance have you checked the fuse? My Honda would get a CEL for O2 sensor and it was the fuse. Found that out after replacing both sensors at lole 125 a clip
I didn’t see a fuse for the o2 sensor, but will check the service manual again. The weird thing is that I see no voltage on the upstream o2 sensor, even the new one. Thinking that may be normal, though. The code was for poor cat conditions, so it very well could be a legit bad cat. I cleared the code yesterday, remembering that some cars require 50 miles of driving before a code clears, so we’ll see.
I believe it is marked as A/F in mine. (air fuel sensor). If it's upstream of the cat that is technically its name, downstream is a different (cheaper) sensor.

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Postby mac5155 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:41 pm

My brother bought a travel trailer and we're going to pick it up tomorrow. The plan is to tow it with our dad's truck. It's an 09 Ram 1500. 5.7 Hemi, 3.92 rear end. Class IV hitch. I've added airbag helpers to the rear suspension and installed a Tekonsha P3 brake controller - far as I can tell, top of the line.

Its got a 7000 lb empty weight with about 840 sitting on the tongue. The cargo capacity for the ram is 1450, which puts me and my brother about the only things we should have in the truck. Tow capacity is 8500 lb. It does have a weight distribution hitch on it, but it still is going to be white knuckle driving I feel. I guess we will see tomorrow!

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Postby dodint » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:42 pm

That was a word problem with no question call.

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