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Was parsing through the binder of receipts the car came with. Found a bunch of scans of old titles going back to 1992, and also this picture:



The snapshot was captioned "#1 Owner Bob Cleary" and has a southeast Ohio are code. I googled the number and found a couple of ads for an airplane and hot air balloons, seems like the guy has had an interesting life.

If figure this shot is either from the 1992 sale to the second owner (at about 11,000 miles) or when he first got it in 1982. Not sure.

Haircut on the guy with the beard indicates 1982 - then again, Ohio things....

Yeah, I sent it to a license plate collector friend of mine that might be able to make sense of the tags, or know when Ohio started doing vanity plates.

The second owners name was "Homer" so honestly all bets are off.

Haircut on the guy with the beard indicates 1982 - then again, Ohio things....

Same with the woman's 70's clothes... That has to be 1982.

Does it make sense that my fuel efficiency would decrease by 22% with new tires?

In order to set a new world record for drifting, BMW designed mid-drift refuelling between two M5s.

That's, like, really dumb.

Have not chimed in yet, but kudos to dodint for realizing the DMC dream. That's pretty cool.

Thanks. Still blows my mind when I walk in the garage.

Sat in it today to see if I could sit in it while wearing a helmet. Feels unsafe to me. Looking for a few possible solutions but it's possible it just won't be safe enough for me to take on track. I'd break my knees or neck depending on what I hit.

Does it make sense that my fuel efficiency would decrease by 22% with new tires?

That does sound a little extreme. Did you switch from a set of low-rolling-resistance eco tires to a set of sticky performance tires?

Unless your tires are flat, there's no way new tires should cause a 22% decrease in fuel efficiency.

Working a few car dealerships via email for quotes on a vehicle. What is best strategy now that I have a few first rounds of quotes? Do I tell them simply I have lower quotes or provide the number and/or dealership that has them beat?

Also, Delorean story is awesome. Congrats on that.

Don't focus on the monthly payment, that's how they getcha. Priority should be sales price. Another thing that I think is useful is saying if they can meet the price you're willing to pay, you will buy the car then and there. If not, you're straight off to another dealership.

Or just go to CarMax.com and order the exact car and trim level you want, and be done with it. I was lucky when my last car died that I had the exact make/model/trim I wanted to get was at a CM just a few miles from my local spot. Free transfer ftw.

Don't focus on the monthly payment, that's how they getcha. Priority should be sales price. Another thing that I think is useful is saying if they can meet the price you're willing to pay, you will buy the car then and there. If not, you're straight off to another dealership.

This. There are so many dealerships nowadays that they’re more willing to make a deal.

Also, Delorean story is awesome. Congrats on that.

Thanks. Dream come true, just waiting for weather now.

Don't focus on the monthly payment, that's how they getcha. Priority should be sales price. Another thing that I think is useful is saying if they can meet the price you're willing to pay, you will buy the car then and there. If not, you're straight off to another dealership.

This. There are so many dealerships nowadays that they’re more willing to make a deal.

Thanks for info. I have been asking for out the door total price.

I'm actually quite surprised, I live in metro Detroit. Contacted 4 dealers in the area on Friday. I still have yet to receive a quote from 3 of them, 2 of them I had to write a second time Monday evening to even receive acknowledgement.

Its like I'm getting close to begging someone to take my money.

Detroit? Ugh. Might as well just buy a new car and drive it into the river.

I'm having a similar problem with a used car. It's a stripped down three series BMW, only factory option included was the heated seat, it's even a manual. It's been sitting on this lot for a month now because the dealer is asking $2k over NADA value, which is 40% over what the car is worth. There are maybe 20 people in the country looking for this particular car and because he found one of them he thinks he has a gold mine on his hands and won't budge on the price. Rare doesn't equal valuable.

Fiat/Chrysler CEO Marchionne: "I don't know of any organization making money on electric vehicles." Hybrid + EV sales = 3% US sales. "That is not a good economic basis in which to do any type of investment." #CuttingThroughHype

https://twitter.com/ChuckLane1/status/9 ... 7058935809

Meanwhile, as a company, Tesla is more valuable than Ford. Go figure.

Well Tesla doesn't turn a profit so that doesn't really deal with what he said.

“Irrational exuberance” in Tesla.

Reading between the lines: "We don't have the money to invest in electric cars because most of our conventional cars are buckets of sh*t, so we're going to try to explain away our lack of R&D as a desire to avoid 'bad investments' and see if the market will buy that crap explanation."

Marchionne yesterday, as quoted in the New York Times:

“I don’t know of any organization making money on electric vehicles,” he said. Hybrids and electric cars together make up only 3 percent of all new cars sold in the United States, he noted. “That is not a good economic basis in which to do any type of investment.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/busi ... ysler.html

Marchionne today, announcing that Ferrari will produce an all-electric supercar:

“If there is an electric supercar to be built, then Ferrari will be the first,” Marchionne said. “People are amazed at what Tesla did with a supercar: I’m not trying to minimize what Elon did but I think it’s doable by all of us.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ionne-says

We don't want to make a huge investment in electric vehicles vs we'll produce 10 electric super cars and sell them for lots of money.