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Postby offsides » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:00 pm

I paid $2.54/gallon for gas at sams club in robinson this morning. That almost feels like a price mistake.
Really dating myself, but I remember paying $.25 a gallon in my first car. All I could afford at the time was a 1955 VW bug that got around 50 mpg. Didn't cost much money in gas to keep that thing running. Real POS, but got me where I wanted to go.

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Postby tjand72 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:32 pm

I heard a thump when braking and a little of a grinding sound just as I got home last night. I took off both front wheels expecting to see a cracked pad or a suspension issue. Driver's side was fine. Went to the passenger side and found that one of the caliper bolts was gone. Just gone. Backed itself out somehow.

That could have been bad.

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Postby dodint » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:09 am

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:09 pm

I don't even know where to begin.

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Postby iamjs » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:38 am

I paid $2.54/gallon for gas at sams club in robinson this morning. That almost feels like a price mistake.
Really dating myself, but I remember paying $.25 a gallon in my first car. All I could afford at the time was a 1955 VW bug that got around 50 mpg. Didn't cost much money in gas to keep that thing running. Real POS, but got me where I wanted to go.
I remember back in the late 90s it was below a dollar for most of the summer. I want to say it was closer to .85/gal.

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Postby NTP66 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:10 am

I paid $2.54/gallon for gas at sams club in robinson this morning. That almost feels like a price mistake.
Really dating myself, but I remember paying $.25 a gallon in my first car. All I could afford at the time was a 1955 VW bug that got around 50 mpg. Didn't cost much money in gas to keep that thing running. Real POS, but got me where I wanted to go.
I remember back in the late 90s it was below a dollar for most of the summer. I want to say it was closer to .85/gal.
I recall paying $.99/gal for 87 back in the mid-90s.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:12 pm

LA Autoshow has some interesting new car announcements.

2020 Jeep Gladiator:

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And a potential replacement for my 2008 Odyssey, the 2019 Honda Passport (although we're probably going to wait a couple of model years so Honda can get the kinks out of a new model):
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We looked at Pilots this summer, and we've owned a CR-V in the past. I thought the Pilot was too big and clunky looking, and the CR-V is too small (it was great with one toddler though). The Passport slots in between those two models, but comes with the 3.5L six cylinder engine.

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:15 pm

I actually like that Honda.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:20 pm

I actually like that Honda.
The Jeep however... :face:

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Postby AuthorTony » Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:53 pm

With it being hard to get a 4 door Wrangler JL for under $40K, I don't even want to see the price of the Gladiators.

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:03 pm

Cars are getting to be like college. I read a comparison article the other day between the 2018 CR-V and RAV4, and both of them were damn near $38k. It's insane.

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Postby AuthorTony » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:06 pm

Yep. To get an equivalent Wrangler to the one I bought in 2013 brand new for just under $31K would cost $41-42K today. Insane.

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Postby Factorial » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:06 pm

Cars are getting to be like college. I read a comparison article the other day between the 2018 CR-V and RAV4, and both of them were damn near $38k. It's insane.
On the other hand, a new Jetta is cheaper than mine was in 2000 and that's not accounting for inflation.

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Postby dodint » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:50 pm

The margin on a Silverado approaches $10k. The Ford trucks are not far behind. Was reading some interesting stuff about the 'big 3' not willing to play the high volume low margin game. They're going to be so **** when gas spikes again. This is mid-2000s all over again.

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Postby iamjs » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:00 pm

With it being hard to get a 4 door Wrangler JL for under $40K, I don't even want to see the price of the Gladiators.
nothing official, but...
Americans love pickup trucks, and Americans love Jeeps. Sergio Marchionne knew this, so building a Wrangler pickup is a complete and total no-brainer. It'll also be wildly different from every other pickup currently on sale, which should help it further.

Marchionne said at the 2018 Detroit Auto Show that FCA expects to sell 100,000 examples of the pickup per year, and they'll be "expensive—intentionally so."
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/f ... ckup-info/
To get an idea of Gladiator pricing, I configured a Wrangler loaded to the hilt. The price tag on a Rubicon with all the bells and whistles? Over $57,000. Considering the Gladiator is that and then some, it'd be safe to say a fully loaded Gladiator Rubicon will probably hit $60,000.

Feeling encouraged, I moved on to "market adjustments." The salesman was pretty straight with me, which I appreciated. "It really depends on how many they give us, but I expect there won't be one [a markup]," he said. "I could see it if we were the only game in town."

"Chrysler/Jeep has a mind of their own. They haven't told us about equipment, options...nothing. I get my information from Allpar, magazines, websites..."

Will people pay $65,000-$70,000 just to be the first with a Jeep pickup truck? Don't underestimate the fanatics. It's a Jeep thing, after all.
http://www.thedrive.com/news/25179/2020 ... lease-date

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:05 pm

Wrangler Unlimiteds seem to be everywhere, all of a sudden. I can see three from window at my campus office right now. How in the hell are college students affording this and student loans? I know those don't belong to us poor faculty and staff. :lol:

I was stunned at how expensive two door Wranglers, I specced one out at over $30K with a cloth top. Absurd.

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Postby iamjs » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:55 pm

I priced one before I traded the 228 and yeah it's ridiculous. My budget was 25k, so my options were getting a 2015-17 with higher mileage or getting something as far back as a 2010-12 with lower (30k) mileage. In both of those cases, either the warranty was soon to expire or was already expired due to model year or mileage.

I'm still looking for a summer/weekend car and considered a Jeep. I kinda want to learn to turn a wrench on a car since I'd consider myself mechanically stupid and supposedly the older Jeeps are easy to work on, but most of those Jeeps are like the old 2002s that I'm trying to find. Either they're restored and expensive or rusted out and still expensive.

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Postby Factorial » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:38 pm

The margin on a Silverado approaches $10k. The Ford trucks are not far behind. Was reading some interesting stuff about the 'big 3' not willing to play the high volume low margin game. They're going to be so **** when gas spikes again. This is mid-2000s all over again.
Truck prices are insane.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:12 pm

Yeah, I'd love a restored Jeep Grand Wagoneer.

But...not at these prices: https://wagonmaster.com/collections/vehicles

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Postby dodint » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:27 pm

Wow.

Nostalgia is expensive af.

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Postby NTP66 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:36 am

Wow.

Nostalgia is expensive af.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 7:48 am

I love the wooden cupholders they add. :lol:

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Postby dodint » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:27 am

My grandfather had one and I always thought it would be fun someday to go back and restore one later in life. Probably not happening.

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Postby AuthorTony » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:06 am

My grandfather had a Bronco and I've always wanted one, sort of in memory of him. Unfortunately the prices for models in decent condition are through the roof so I'll have to content myself with looking at photos of him standing beside his ride.

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Postby dodint » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:10 am

My Dad and I restored a '79 Bronco II when we lived on base in NC. By restored I mean he bought it in non-running condition and we nursed it back to drive-able, then he sold it so we could move to PA when he got out. It's the only Chevy I remember us working on.

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