2015 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

Postby **Morkle** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:33 am

I'm more interested now in what happens to Walker and Alvarez. I think if you're not going to use Alvarez for his bat - in one game. It's time to move on - that being said, are they even going to get power at the corners?

Postby **Lemon Berry Lobster** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:34 am

http://deadspin.com/the-wild-card-game- ... 1735364856

Postby **blackjack68** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:35 am

There is no crying in baseball

I started to feel like poop so I did end up leaving at the beginning of the 7th. 104 fever and holding steady!

They didn't mean this literally...

Postby **meow** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:35 am

I'm more interested now in what happens to Walker and Alvarez. I think if you're not going to use Alvarez for his bat - in one game. It's time to move on - that being said, are they even going to get power at the corners?

S Rod never batted.

Postby **Morkle** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:52 am

I'm more interested now in what happens to Walker and Alvarez. I think if you're not going to use Alvarez for his bat - in one game. It's time to move on - that being said, are they even going to get power at the corners?
S Rod never batted.

Sure, but the fact that he was announced the starter because Hurdle thought it was going to be a 1-0 game is laughable. If Sean Rod is announced the starter, then just get rid of Alvarez.

I just want the Pirates to pay for someone that can actually hit near .300 and hit homeruns. Cutch can't do it all, and they can't have guys like Polanco going 0-4 when it matters.

Postby **Craig** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:07 pm

How often do guys like that hit free agency?

Postby **meow** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:10 pm

I'm more interested now in what happens to Walker and Alvarez. I think if you're not going to use Alvarez for his bat - in one game. It's time to move on - that being said, are they even going to get power at the corners?
S Rod never batted.
Sure, but the fact that he was announced the starter because Hurdle thought it was going to be a 1-0 game is laughable. If Sean Rod is announced the starter, then just get rid of Alvarez.

I just want the Pirates to pay for someone that can actually hit near .300 and hit homeruns. Cutch can't do it all, and they can't have guys like Polanco going 0-4 when it matters.

What about Kang? He was mashing it until his injury? One more like him?

Postby **schreibdog** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:20 pm

I don't think Arrieta was pitching like he did the past two months. He was missing spots but the Bucs didn't make him pay for it.
I somewhat agree. I don't know if TBS's strike zone was off or if the ump was slobbering all over Arrieta's second half and just gave him the Maddux strike zone. But he was hitting his spots in the first 4 innings before becoming hittable. Bucs could have capitalized but it would have been too little too late anyway.

Completely agree with this. He was strong the first 4+ innings. Then he started missing pitches, but the Bucs swung at balls out of the zone and also hit a few "at-em" balls.
In the 6th inning, Polanco hit one 109MPH off him for a line out to Bryant at 3rd and then Marte hit 107MPH that ended up being a double-play ball. Two of the hardest hit off Arrieta all year and they ended up being all 3 outs in that inning. Brutal.

Postby **Kaiser** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:24 pm

At least you aren't mariners fans

Postby **Morkle** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:25 pm

How often do guys like that hit free agency?

Didn't say free agency. Maybe the issue with the Pitchers injuries hurt their chances last deadline - but I'm also OK in exploring options in moving Marte/Polanco and prospects to make a splash.

The small market team isn't going to have the window open forever, and it just sucks.

Postby **Morkle** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:31 pm

I'm more interested now in what happens to Walker and Alvarez. I think if you're not going to use Alvarez for his bat - in one game. It's time to move on - that being said, are they even going to get power at the corners?
S Rod never batted.
Sure, but the fact that he was announced the starter because Hurdle thought it was going to be a 1-0 game is laughable. If Sean Rod is announced the starter, then just get rid of Alvarez.

I just want the Pirates to pay for someone that can actually hit near .300 and hit homeruns. Cutch can't do it all, and they can't have guys like Polanco going 0-4 when it matters.
What about Kang? He was mashing it until his injury? One more like him?

Totally it sucks for injuries. The lineup again deserved questioning - I think Harrison would have been the better PH option over Ramirez, and obviously Pedro who had some "post-season" success over Serpico. That all being said, it may not have mattered much:

Then really that doesn't even matter if your Ace is giving up runs.

Postby **Morkle** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:35 pm

Also - what a turd chart.

Postby **dodint** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:11 pm

There is no crying in baseball

I started to feel like poop so I did end up leaving at the beginning of the 7th. 104 fever and holding steady!

You were called out by the 'unbiased' commentary team. They made a point that the blackout had turned blue around that time.

Postby **RonnieFranchise** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:31 pm

There is no crying in baseball

I started to feel like poop so I did end up leaving at the beginning of the 7th. 104 fever and holding steady!
You were called out by the 'unbiased' commentary team. They made a point that the blackout had turned blue around that time.

Sounds like it turned green.

Postby **Faubert5** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:21 pm

Also - what a turd chart.

He grew increasingly average over the course of the season.

Postby **RonnieFranchise** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:25 pm

Also - what a turd chart.

He grew increasingly average over the course of the season.

He did but he didn't get worse every single game,,,, I agree, crap chart.

Postby **RoMo21** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:34 pm

Marte's double play came off the bat at 109mph. That was the 4th hardest a ball has been hit against Arrieta all season. We hit him hard quite a few times but he must be enchanted or something because every time it was right to someone.

I'm tired of people saying "win the division" and complaining about our record against our division. You can't expect a team to win 100 games. We won 98 this year. That would win 21 out of 24 divisions since 2012. Of the other 3, 2 we would have tied for first and the other was our division this year.

Postby **DoDiligence** » Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:37 pm

Get em next year

Postby **Morkle** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:43 am

Also - what a turd chart.

He grew increasingly average over the course of the season.
He did but he didn't get worse every single game,,,, I agree, crap chart.

I think the chart speaks to how he could get by with what he had, but it obviously isn't a good way to go about it.

Postby **RonnieFranchise** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:45 am

Move Pirates to AL Central

Move Royals to NL Central

Win Division that includes Cleveland

Profit

Postby **DigitalGypsy66** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:47 am

Ewww...DH though...

But Pedro could be useful once again...hmmm.

Postby **CBear3** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:23 am

The only playoff team the Royals had a winning record against? The Pirates.
If you can't beat Milwaukee and the Reds, you won't have it much easier against Cleveland and Detroit.

Speaking of that, the Tigers finished last in the AL Central, except they went 41-34 against it.

Postby **CBear3** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:30 am

You need to move to the East, you were great against the Mets this year.

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:12 pm

You need to move to the East, you were great against the Mets this year.

Would end up getting no-hit half a dozen times by Scherzer.

Postby **Rocco** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:29 pm

The only playoff team the Royals had a winning record against? The Pirates.
If you can't beat Milwaukee and the Reds, you won't have it much easier against Cleveland and Detroit.

Speaking of that, the Tigers finished last in the AL Central, except they went 41-34 against it.

2-1 against Cleveland, 4-2 against Detroit. All 6 games against the Tigers were before they tanked at the end of the year. Pretty sure they caught Cleveland after Lindor was called up.