Donald is a funny name if you think about it

[tifosi77]

I think the conservative vote is mostly just anti-Clinton.

The opposite is the case. If you look at voter enthusiasm for their candidate, Republicans surpassed 50% for Trump two months ago. The same metric shows Democratic voters in the mid-30% range for Clinton. It's a clear indication that voters recognize Clinton's nomination was set in 2008, and they're just going along for the ride.

[tifosi77]

You're right. I am after all the only rube that got it wrong on Trump. I am completely unique in that, and it is my poli-sci scarlet letter. The shame.

Modern American conservative voters are a group of few admirable qualities, but taken as a whole I was clearly wrong to have thought so highly of their ability to recognize a twit. Then again, it's his twitishness that they seem to like the most.

Oh get off your high horse. Modern democrats elected a **** ing unelectable ass clown.

It's not really that high of a horse, which is what's so depressing.

[Troy Loney]

I think the conservative vote is mostly just anti-Clinton.

The opposite is the case. If you look at voter enthusiasm for their candidate, Republicans surpassed 50% for Trump two months ago. The same metric shows Democratic voters in the mid-30% range for Clinton. It's a clear indication that voters recognize Clinton's nomination was set in 2008, and they're just going along for the ride.

I don't consider the Trump base to be conservative. I break the Republican Party into three sections, Conservative (these are guys like Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz), Establishment (Bushes, WSJ) and the white resentment class.

[tifosi77]

Trump wouldn't be an issue if you guys had been smarter and nominated another candidate.

Inevitability notwithstanding, Trump secured the GOP nomination before Clinton locked up the Democratic nomination. He's not a response to her. He is the result of 30 years of talk radio and eroded discourse.

[grunthy]

Trump wouldn't be an issue if you guys had been smarter and nominated another candidate.

Inevitability notwithstanding, Trump secured the GOP nomination before Clinton locked up the Democratic nomination. He's not a response to her. He is the result of 30 years of talk radio and eroded discourse.

Who said he was a response to her? If the democrats would have nominated literally any other person, Trump would lose 90% of the states.

[tifosi77]

Likewise with Trump. The two parties have nominated candidates that are historically terrible, and so they are each facing off against the only candidate that they could beat head-to-head.

[grunthy]

Likewise with Trump. The two parties have nominated candidates that are historically terrible, and so they are each facing off against the only candidate that they could beat head-to-head.

Correct

[Troy Loney]

Likewise with Trump. The two parties have nominated candidates that are historically terrible, and so they are each facing off against the only candidate that they could beat head-to-head.

I think publicly, Clinton was a perfectly acceptable candidate until it was revealed that her email policy was designed to keep correspondence from going public. Ever since then, she's done nothing but validate right wing media notions about her. It was clear at the time this was going to be bad because she has put herself in a position where she can't prove them wrong.

[Factorial]

Who said he was a response to her? If the democrats would have nominated literally any other person, Trump would lose 90% of the states.

Sorry, but TX and MS and AL, etc ain't voting for a democrat regardless of who is it. They wouldn't have voted for Sanders or Biden.

[Tomas]

Likewise with Trump. The two parties have nominated candidates that are historically terrible, and so they are each facing off against the only candidate that they could beat head-to-head.

But he has a lion!



I find it funny that the fist thing I noticed on that picture is the fact that even the toy cars are two oversized limos and something that looks like Bugatti Veyron...

Plus the lion has the eyes of the man in the gorilla costume from the ending of Trading Spaces...

[grunthy]

Who said he was a response to her? If the democrats would have nominated literally any other person, Trump would lose 90% of the states.

Sorry, but TX and MS and AL, etc ain't voting for a democrat regardless of who is it. They wouldn't have voted for Sanders or Biden.

Is this a reading comprehension fail?

[Pavel Bure]

Someone put it very well yesterday. Trump and Hilary are both negatives running against each other and even a zero like Biden if he chose to run would crush them. Hilary is so unpopular that 8 years ago the Dems were ready to crown her until the super likable mostly unknown Obama stole the show. People just don't like Hilary.

[Factorial]

Someone put it very well yesterday. Trump and Hilary are both negatives running against each other and even a zero like Biden if he chose to run would crush them. Hilary is so unpopular that 8 years ago the Dems were ready to crown her until the super likable mostly unknown Obama stole the show. People just don't like Hilary.

Hillary is so unpopular with the right and to independents to some degree. Biden wouldn't win 45 states.

[Gaucho]

Lots of money and zero sense of taste is a lethal combination.

[columbia]

Lots of money and zero sense of taste is a lethal combination.

I almost posted something like this.

[Factorial]

Trump used $258,000 from his charity to settle legal problems:

Donald Trump spent more than a quarter-million dollars from his charitable foundation to settle lawsuits that involved the billionaire’s for-profit businesses, according to interviews and a review of legal documents.

Those cases, which together used $258,000 from Trump’s charity, were among four newly documented expenditures in which Trump may have violated laws against “self-dealing” — which prohibit nonprofit leaders from using charity money to benefit themselves or their businesses.

Oops.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ge%2Fstory

[grunthy]

Yep his "foundation" is a front.

[Viva la Ben]

lock him up!

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

"who's a bigger piece of sh*t: the election"

[grunthy]

How about Trump and Clinton for prison and we restart the entire primary nominations?

[tifosi77]

I'd be all for switching up our system to prevent campaigning or fundraising until three months before election day.

[Viva la Ben]

None of the above!

[Factorial]

The best part of that Post article on his charity:

In 2010, a man named Martin Greenberg hit a hole-in-one on the 13th hole while playing in a charity tournament at Trump’s course in Westchester County, N.Y.

Greenberg won a $1 million prize. Briefly.

Later, Greenberg was told that he had won nothing. The prize’s rules required that the shot had to go 150 yards. But Trump’s course had allegedly made the hole too short.

Greenberg sued.

Eventually, court papers show, Trump’s golf course signed off on a settlement that required it to make a donation of Martin Greenberg’s choosing. Then, on the day that the parties informed the court they had settled their case, a $158,000 donation was sent to the Martin Greenberg Foundation.

[MalkinIsMyHomeboy]

par 3s shorter than 150 make me sick

[Nuge]

How about Trump and Clinton for prison and we restart the entire primary nominations?

I think the entire party/primary system should be eliminated. Skip right to open general elections.