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Postby Shyster » Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:23 pm

Holy crap. Amazing story of a near-collision with a KLM 747 over Afghanistan back in 1994:

https://airfactsjournal.com/2020/10/hou ... llowed-by/

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Postby Shyster » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:58 pm

Thai Airways declared bankruptcy a few months ago due to the Covid downturn and today announced that it will be selling off a number of stored aircraft on an "as-is, where-is" basis, including:

1 Airbus 300-600
1 Boeing 737-400
3 Airbus 340-500
6 Airbus 340-600
10 Boeing 747-400
6 Boeing 777-200
6 Boeing 777-300

Most of these aircraft are pretty old, and some were in storage for years before Covid came along. I can't imagine anyone buying any of them to actually operate them, so I think all of them are headed to the scrapper.

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:01 pm

Where was Adam Savage when all of this happened? This has Mythbusters written all over it.

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Postby NTP66 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:05 pm

Come on, son, you know I’ve already seen this.

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:22 pm

Well, you're the one asking the questions here, sparky. :wink:

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Postby Shyster » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:09 pm

Airlines are continuing to pare down their fleets, and older 777 variants like the -200 and non-ER -300 models seem to be comprising the next wave of aircraft retirements. Here in the US, Delta retired the last of its 777-200s a couple weeks ago, and both ANA and Japan Airlines have announced the retirement of a bug chunk of their 777 fleets. JAL says that it will retire up to 24 777s over the next three years. Eleven 777-200ERs used internationally will be retired by March 2021, with maybe a few moved to domestic operations, and 13 777s used on domestic flights (nine 777-200s and four 777-300s) will be retired by March 2023. ANA will be retiring 27 aircraft, including 22 777 variants, five 767s, and a single 737. JAL has Airbus A350s on order that will replace some of these 777s, and ANA has 787s on order for their replacements, but both airlines will be going with a significantly smaller fleet for the foreseeable future.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:23 am

Are there any restrictions for a regular person to buy a surplus 747 or other large airliner? Just the ability to cut a big enough check?

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Postby tifosi77 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:24 pm

I don't think there are any commercial restrictions on private parties buying civilian versions of airliners.

A buddy of mine in the UK is an avionics engineer that works for a company that customizes airliners for private party owners. He has fun stories about all the booze hidey spots they build into the interiors for clients from Muslim countries. :lol:

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Postby Shyster » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:27 pm

No restrictions that I'm aware of. Super-wealthy people do own private airliners. Boeing offers BBJ (Boeing Business Jet) versions of just about all of its aircraft, and it's sold something like 150 over the years. Most probably went to governments as executive transports, but some went to private owners. Airbus has a similar program called Airbus Corporate Jets. There are multiple companies out there that specialize in putting any interior in a jet that you want. Want a king-size bed and a marble bathtub? No problem.

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Postby Shyster » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:15 pm

An Alaskan 737-700 hit a bear when landing at Yakutat Airport in southern Alaska. According to FAA records, airplanes have hit deer, bats, coyotes, raccoons, skunks, opossums, dessert hares, prairie dogs, cats, dogs, foxes, bull snakes, turtles, armadillos, alligators, badgers, woodchucks, elk, antelope jackrabbits, and all sorts of birds, but a bear might be a new one.

https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nat ... 15169.html

Also ran across this great story, which I hadn't heard. On March 30, 1987, an Alaska Airlines 737-200 taking off from Juneau hit a large fish in midair. The fish was apparently dropped by an Bald Eagle that was taking evasive action.

https://blog.alaskaair.com/alaska-airlines/flying-fish/

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Postby shafnutz05 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:12 am

I flew Alaska Airlines into Ketchikan back in my CG days. It was a great experience.

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Postby RonnieFranchise » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:51 am

2 years ago we flew Alaska PIT-SEA-LAS just because I wanted to fly Alaska. Better than another AA shitshow for sure.

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:07 pm

What was the resolution to this?

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:55 pm

Suspicious package. Bigly nothingburger. :lol:

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Postby Shyster » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:32 pm

Aviation news:

After nearly two years, the FAA has recertified the 737 MAX for flight. The 737s already built will undergo multiple software and hardware upgrades, and there will be new mandatory training requirements for all MAX pilots. It will likely take several months for any US-based MAXes to start flying again. The European authorities have not issued their requirements, and they might take another month or two. I've seen people saying that the EASA will require Boeing to install a third AoA sensor on the MAX as part of its recertification requirements, but I don't know that for sure.

Covid is causing a shotgun marriage between the two major airlines in Korea: Korean Air and Asiana Airlines. The Korean government has announced that Asiana Airlines will be acquired by Korean, with the Korea Development Bank (one of Korea's state banks) providing significant funding for the merger. This is basically the Korean government driving a merger and consolidation instead of issuing separate bailouts to the two airlines. Their low-cost subsidiaries Air Busan (Asiana), Air Seoul (Asiana) and Jin Air (Korean) will also be consolidated into a single low-cost carrier. The resulting airline will be the 10th largest in the world for fleet size, although I would expect that fleet to significantly shrink.

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Postby dodint » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:33 pm

Boeing would like you to use the preferred nomenclature, 737-8, dude.

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:18 pm

Yeah, I can't imagine them wanting to stick with the MAX tag. I mean, Ford quickly re-branded the Pinto in Brazil once their error was realized.

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Postby Shyster » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:02 pm

Say goodbye to emotional-support animals in airplane cabins
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/st ... -on-planes

The federal DOT has issued a final rule that aims to settle years of spats between airlines and passengers who wanted to bring "emotional support" animals on board. Highlights of the rule:

- Only dogs count. No pigs, cats, or peacocks.
- Only dogs trained to help a person with a physical or psychiatric disability count. If an animal has not gone through specific training for a specific disability, it must be checked into the cargo hold.
- Airlines will be able to require owners to vouch for a dog’s health, behavior, and training and require the owners to submit documentation showing that the dog is a service animal.
- Airlines can require service dogs to be leashed at all times.

This should end the practice of people bringing their untrained pets on board merely by calling them "emotional support" animals.

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Postby dodint » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:38 pm

**** yes!

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:23 am

Just in time for me to not fly for at least the next full year!

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Postby Shyster » Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:05 pm

I feel a little bad, because as someone with an anxiety disorder I know that there are people who would benefit from a support animal. This rule came about because douchenozzles abused the heck out of the concept to fly with their pets for free. I hope that people with legitimate mental illnesses who need a support animal can get the training for that animal necessary for it to qualify as an actual service (and not support) animal.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:13 pm

One of the stock photos for that story showed a woman and a mini-pony getting on a plane. Could you imagine sitting next to a **** horse for a cross country flight? :lol:

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Postby dodint » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:05 pm

I feel a little bad, because as someone with an anxiety disorder I know that there are people who would benefit from a support animal. This rule came about because douchenozzles abused the heck out of the concept to fly with their pets for free. I hope that people with legitimate mental illnesses who need a support animal can get the training for that animal necessary for it to qualify as an actual service (and not support) animal.
Maybe you can shed some light on this (or not, nbd). If someone has anxiety how does bringing an unwanted exotic animal onto a plane not ratchet the anxiety up to 11? You bring a peacock on a plane and everyone hates you. Seems that would make the whole experience doubly worse. I understand not all anxieties are the same, but certainly this situations layers them. Unless the owner is completely self-absorbed.

It's possible people can be both suffering from anxiety and be an dadhole, which I guess is why there is now a final rule on the books.

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Postby Shyster » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:15 pm

I think the presence of the pet and petting the dog or whatever would override the other anxieties of the situation. Pets in general are supposed to be calming, so I can see that. Or the person just really isn't thinking about anyone else.

That is one of the complaints I heard about people bringing on all of the animals, namely, that some people are themselves deathly afraid of dogs, and some untrained "support" animal on a plane might make the owner feel better but other people feel much worse. I personally wouldn't be all that comfortable if someone next to me had a big-ass dog with them, especially one that hadn't gone through the intensive training of a real service animal such as a seeing-eye dog.

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