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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:09 pm

How bout cockpit footage of landing at Lukla - Tenzing Hillary in Nepal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH0VjKl7tIk

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:15 pm

Let's see if I can make it up to you:

https://youtu.be/LK2lrb6ZNMY

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:16 pm

How bout cockpit footage of landing at Lukla - Tenzing Hillary in Nepal?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH0VjKl7tIk
That's what I'm talking about. Pilot POV videos are tops.

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:07 pm

Let's see if I can make it up to you:

https://youtu.be/LK2lrb6ZNMY
When the 380 made its first appearance in LA, my office was directly overlooking LAX. Those first couple trips were minor events; all the employees would go (unironically) to our Boeing conference room (so called because it faced a Boeing facility across the street) and watch it come in to land.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:31 pm

I used to work at a place that was a few blocks from an Air Force base, and the best time of year was when the Blue Angels were in town, because we basically got free shows as we watched them practice.

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Postby dodint » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:04 pm

Seen it.

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Postby Shyster » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:34 pm

I'm trying to remember the quote tifosi pulled out in regard to the A380—it was something like "A very big aircraft for a very small market." It's a very impressive piece of engineering , but other than Emirates (which has ordered 142 of them), it hasn't really taken off with other carriers. The future is pretty clearly in twinjets. Since the order books opened in 2001 there have been 319 net orders for the A380. But since the same year there have been 1,388 net orders for the 777, and there are 810 orders so far for the A350XWB. Airbus would have been better served to have skipped the super and instead built a more direct competitor for the 777-300ER/777-9. The A350-1000 is supposed to compete in that market, but it doesn't quite have the seating capacity of the 777. They should have targeted the A350 to completely replace the A330 and compete squarely with the 787 and used the A380 money to hit Boeing right in the 400-seat-twinjet market.

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:25 pm

That's the quote. If my memory serves it was a Boeing exec at Paris or Farnborough or something. There are like five routes in the world that can support an aircraft like the 380.

It is a comprehensively ugly aircraft.

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Postby slappybrown » Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:33 pm

I've flown the 380 business class and it was phenomenal. Smoothest ride I've experienced for what it's worth.

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Postby tifosi77 » Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:36 pm

#humblebrag

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Postby slappybrown » Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:42 pm

Work trip, not on my dime.

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Postby dodint » Tue Aug 09, 2016 11:13 pm

The best I've done is 14hr first class in a 777-200lr. Dubai to Atlanta non-stop.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:53 am

Source of the post It is a comprehensively ugly aircraft.
I don't think it's that bad, given its size. It is an engineering marvel, though. The Antonov An-72 is probably one of the ugliest I've ever seen.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:01 am

I've only ever been on one wide-body, and that was a 767-200 many years ago. Since (I believe) most wide-body jets are used from hub to hub domestically, I doubt I'll get a chance to ride one until we take that trip to Australia, where the A380 is apparently used from DFW.

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Postby slappybrown » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:29 am

The best I've done is 14hr first class in a 777-200lr. Dubai to Atlanta non-stop.

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From what I could see, first class in the 380 was basically your own studio apartment. Imagine the 777 was competitive if it was a newer one, especially if you were on Emirates?

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Postby columbia » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:33 am

Pre-911, one could take their own full bottles of liquor aboard Emirates flights to Europe.

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Postby dodint » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:46 am

The best I've done is 14hr first class in a 777-200lr. Dubai to Atlanta non-stop.

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From what I could see, first class in the 380 was basically your own studio apartment. Imagine the 777 was competitive if it was a newer one, especially if you were on Emirates?
It had the herringbone seating with lay flat seat with on demand media center built in. That's more than enough for me. Beats the living hell out of steerage, especially for tall folks.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnPOTrrPMhY

It wasn't Emirates Personal Suite level or anything, but for Delta I thought it was exceptional and perfect for what I expected.

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:59 pm

The Lesson Of The Delta Disaster: Flying Is Too Cheap
This week’s epic fail at Delta Air Lines DAL +0.60% prompted angry comments like this one from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: “an industry that’s happy to gouge passengers for extra bags and operate planes perennially short of pillows must undertake a comprehensive re-evaluation of its approach to customer service.”

There’s an old saying that should be kept in mind before we get too indignant: you get what you pay for. Flying is too cheap and that’s why it’s miserable. It also means the system is unreliable, less safe and ultimately at odds with the megatrends of our time.
TL;DR - It's the consumer's fault. The author is out of touch with reality.

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Postby Shyster » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:33 pm

According to its own press releases, Delta had an adjusted net income of $926 million for just the fourth quarter of 2015 alone. They netted well over a billion dollars last year and paid hundreds of millions of dollars in dividends. Delta's 1Q 2016 profit was a record high. They're making tons of money. I thus reject the notion that Delta can't afford to upgrade its computer systems or implement adequate backups. They might want to spend the money elsewhere, but I'm pretty darn confident they would afford it.

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:40 pm

From a linked article:
Chief Operating Officer Gil West said equipment controlling the flow of electricity at Delta’s base in Atlanta malfunctioned early Monday morning, “causing a surge to the transformer and a loss of power.” Though electricity was restored quickly, “critical systems and network equipment didn’t switch over to backups. Other systems did. And now we’re seeing instability in these systems.”
They're using the wrong terminology here, but if their primary systems didn't failover properly (i.e., automatically, within seconds), I fail to see why it took so long to bring everything back online. I'll bet any amount of money that they have serious cash invested into their infrastructure, and this aspect of it is nowhere near the top of the list in terms of cost. To me, there's much more to the story.

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Postby Shyster » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:51 pm

I'm not an IT guy (but have many friends who are), but my understanding is that a large company like this that is highly IT dependent should operate at least two data centers (preferably in different parts of the country) that are mirrors of one another. If one goes down, you just switch to the second—and preferably that switch happens automatically. But based on what happened, it seems to me Delta either doesn't have that sort of setup or there were severe problems such that a switchover didn't happen. Either of those is a serious screwup that should never happen.

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:57 pm

This is my area of expertise (one of, at least) - it should work exactly as you described. Even a manual failover should take minutes. This is, of course, assuming that they keep data at both sites in sync. If they actually had to restore from backup, depending on the amount of data we're talking about and the media it's stored on, that could explain the delay. Either way, if I were responsible for that system, I'd be buttoning up my resume right about now.

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Postby Shyster » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:04 pm

Oooh yeah. Someone's getting fired.

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Postby Shyster » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:25 pm

"Kennedy Steve" is an ground controller at JFK who is well-known for his humorous delivery. In this recording a pilot screws up and broadcasts his "welcome to New York" message over the Ground radio channel. Kennedy Steve is the one who immediately calls for the other pilots on the channel to abuse him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOJRYPAFgkQ

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Postby tifosi77 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:25 pm

3D tour of 747-400 Global SuperTanker

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