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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:08 am

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ine-damage

OK, that’s another account that says she was partially sucked out the window. I read an AP report last night with the same info. So was she partially sucked out? Or not?

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:11 am

Unless I've missed them, I have not seen a single photo showing any hole in the fuselage, and certainly not large enough to cause somebody to be sucked out (even though that's not possible, anyway).

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Postby RonnieFranchise » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:05 am

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ine-damage

OK, that’s another account that says she was partially sucked out the window. I read an AP report last night with the same info. So was she partially sucked out? Or not?
Seems like a pretty specific account

The window was knocked out, could be a broad definition of ‘sucked out.’ Maybe ‘sucked towards” is more accurate.
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Postby llipgh2 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:05 am

Unless I've missed them, I have not seen a single photo showing any hole in the fuselage, and certainly not large enough to cause somebody to be sucked out (even though that's not possible, anyway).
The woman was sucked out of a broken window. In some photos you can see the broken window. It's directly behind the wing where the engine exploded.

Apparently she was outside of the plane for minutes, not seconds. Her seatmate and the woman behind her held her but couldn't pull her back in. Two men rushed to help, and they were able to pull her in. A passenger did CPR, but she never responded.

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Postby llipgh2 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:07 am

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ine-damage

OK, that’s another account that says she was partially sucked out the window. I read an AP report last night with the same info. So was she partially sucked out? Or not?
Seems like a pretty specific account
Yep. Passengers said her arms and part of her upper body went out the window.

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Postby meow » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:10 am

No one got sucked out. A woman had a heart attack.
She probably killed herself when she realized they were landing in Philly
I rarely use this, but that is POTW material right there. :lol:
I'm pretty ashamed of that post...but it was an easy one.

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Postby llipgh2 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:14 am

The pilot apparently is pretty bad ass. She was one of the first female fighter pilots in the Navy. Saw that on the news this am.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/18/us/south ... index.html

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:18 am

Finally found a photo of the broken window on the fourth article. Lesson of the day: wear your **** seatbelt at all times.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:59 am

Finally found a photo of the broken window on the fourth article. Lesson of the day: wear your **** seatbelt at all times.
Bingo. Passengers on a plane are so fcking annoying. I can't STAND the passengers that the second the plane gets off the ground, they are standing up and making a beeline for the bathroom. Even after the flight attendants say repeatedly to sit back down, they still don't listen. Go before you board the flight you schmucks.

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Postby grunthy » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:10 am

Unless I've missed them, I have not seen a single photo showing any hole in the fuselage, and certainly not large enough to cause somebody to be sucked out (even though that's not possible, anyway).
It sure is possible. Just not the James Bond way.

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Postby llipgh2 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:28 am

Finally found a photo of the broken window on the fourth article. Lesson of the day: wear your **** seatbelt at all times.
I don't know if a seat belt would matter. If she is directly beside the window the sheer force could pull her partially out of the plane. They are saying her arms and upper torso were sucked out. So strictly speculating, I thought this would be pulled out to about mid chest/upper waist. Which could happen even with a seat belt on.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:31 am

Finally found a photo of the broken window on the fourth article. Lesson of the day: wear your **** seatbelt at all times.
I don't know if a seat belt would matter. If she is directly beside the window the sheer force could pull her partially out of the plane. They are saying her arms and upper torso were sucked out. So strictly speculating, I thought this would be pulled out to about mid chest/upper waist. Which could happen even with a seat belt on.
If you're secured to your seat with a seatbelt, there's no way the pressure is pulling you so much that the belt stretches. It's just not physically possible for that to happen unless the belt is defective. I can get behind an adult's arm/shoulder getting sucked out from the force, but it's not pulling them out of that seat.

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:11 am

The pilot apparently is pretty bad ass. She was one of the first female fighter pilots in the Navy. Saw that on the news this am.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/18/us/south ... index.html
Popped in to post this. She's an OG lady fighter pilot. :thumb:

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:14 am

Finally found a photo of the broken window on the fourth article. Lesson of the day: wear your **** seatbelt at all times.
I don't know if a seat belt would matter. If she is directly beside the window the sheer force could pull her partially out of the plane. They are saying her arms and upper torso were sucked out. So strictly speculating, I thought this would be pulled out to about mid chest/upper waist. Which could happen even with a seat belt on.
If you're secured to your seat with a seatbelt, there's no way the pressure is pulling you so much that the belt stretches. It's just not physically possible for that to happen unless the belt is defective. I can get behind an adult's arm/shoulder getting sucked out from the force, but it's not pulling them out of that seat.
Yeah, this is just not how that works. It would take approximately 2 or 3 seconds for the pressure to equalize, after which there's no continued force other than 'hey, the plane's flying 500 mph, neat!'.

And an entire window being blown out is a little bit different than a run-of-the-mill explosive decomp.

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Postby MR25 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:58 am

So I'm still not sure: is the person who died of the heart attack the same as the person who got sucked out? I keep hearing different things.

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Postby mamaemeritus » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:17 pm

So I'm still not sure: is the person who died of the heart attack the same as the person who got sucked out? I keep hearing different things.
The person who got sucked out passed away. I thought she was the only fatality.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:23 pm

Same person, apparently.

Also:
"You hear the pop and she was sucked out from the waist up," one passenger told NBC Nightly News. "There was blood on the windows...her arms were actually out of the airplane and her head was out of the airplane."
So, she was sucked out from the waist up, but only her arms and head were out of the airplane. Okay. It's awful, but there is a lot of exaggerating going on.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:51 pm

It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.

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Postby grunthy » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:55 pm

I have a feeling she died almost instantaneously.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:01 pm

She had a heart attack, not sudden cardiac arrest, so that's unlikely.

Not a single person in this photo is wearing the oxygen mask correctly:

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Postby shafnutz05 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:18 pm

Dude on the left is more concerned with making sure his Facebook Live post is being LIKED and SHARED than he is making sure his damn lifeline is secured.

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:36 pm

It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
My first recall of this line was actually South Park. lol

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Postby llipgh2 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:54 pm

Not a single person in this photo is wearing the oxygen mask correctly:
I noticed that as well.

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Postby tifosi77 » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:49 pm

ATC for SWA 1380 event



"Is your airplane physically on fire?"

"No....but part of it's missing."

lol

The calm decisiveness that always comes across in these comms never ceases to amaze and impress.

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