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Postby Shyster » Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:36 pm

As much as the concept of owning and flying an aircraft appeals to me, the expenses are... daunting, even for something like a basic Cessna. Racing is probably way cheaper.

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Postby tifosi77 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:45 pm

This subject arose in either the PDT or COVID thread to great amusement some time back.

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Postby DigitalGypsy66 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:13 pm

That would be cool to fly yourself back and forth from the beach though.

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Postby dodint » Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:13 pm

As much as the concept of owning and flying an aircraft appeals to me, the expenses are... daunting, even for something like a basic Cessna. Racing is probably way cheaper.
Yeah. It's a 10 year plan. Maybe I should finance the plane now and fly it once it is paid off. :lol:

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Postby NTP66 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 7:48 pm

As much as the concept of owning and flying an aircraft appeals to me, the expenses are... daunting, even for something like a basic Cessna. Racing is probably way cheaper.
Yeah. It's a 10 year plan. Maybe I should finance the plane now and fly it once it is paid off. :lol:
Have @mikey send you a few bucks to fly a wedding banner over his venue when the time comes to help fund it...

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Postby Shyster » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:06 pm

There are reports floating around that "Rosaviatsia," the Russiaian civil-aviation authority and the Russian equivalent to the FAA, was hacked by "Anonymous" and had its entire database wiped out. Aircraft registrations, pilot licensing, you name it. Reports are also that no backup exists "due to lack of funds allocated by Russia's Ministry of Finance." (Translation: the heads of the agency pocketed the money allocated for computer backups.) While Rosaviatsia has not admitted to any hack, it did put out a statement that said "Due to temporary lack of access to Internet and malfunction of the electronic document flow system of Rosaviatsia the Federal Agency for Air Transport is switching to paper version."

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Postby shafnutz05 » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:25 pm

My Mom is sitting in Charlotte at the gate (but on the plane) because the pilot is MIA. At least she's in first class thanks to her last flight being delayed, resulting in a missed her connection and a six hour layover at CLT.

American Airlines, sincerely go **** yourself.

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Postby RonnieFranchise » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:31 pm

If you ever find yourself with some time to kill around IAH, they have the best spotting location i’m aware of right at the end of rwy 27. 80% of the aircraft being United notwithstanding.

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Postby Shyster » Tue Apr 05, 2022 1:38 am

European leisure airline Condor just introduced a new livery scheme that will certainly not be mistaken for any other airline.



In addition to the "Sunshine" yellow and the "Island" green , there will also be "Sea" blue, "Passion" red, and "Beach" tan stripes.

Condor did briefly operate Pittsburgh-Frankfurt flights before the pandemic hit, and while I haven't heard anything about them returning, it's certainly not out of the question that PIT could see this livery in the future.

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:07 am

Fruitstripe livery... nice?

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:52 am

:lol:

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Postby Shyster » Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:18 pm

Last month, news broke that Frontier Airlines was seeking to buy Spirit Airlines. Today, news comes out that JetBlue just topped Frontier with an even bigger offer to buy Spirit.

I think Spirit might be a slightly better fit for JetBlue than for Frontier. Spirit has a focus on the central US, Frontier focuses more on the central/western US, and JetBlue focuses on the east coast. I think there's more opportunity for JetBlue to expand westwards through a Spirit purchase than for Frontier to expand because there appears to be more existing overlap between Frontier and Spirit than JetBlue and Spirit. All three airlines have all-Airbus fleets, so either company buying Spirit would be a fairly easy fleet integration.

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Postby Ad@m » Fri Apr 08, 2022 1:05 pm

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A DHL cargo jet has broken in half after sliding off the runway while landing at San Jose’s international airport.

The crash Thursday shut down the airport, but the two crewmen aboard were reported uninjured.

The fire department says the Boeing 757 had taken off from Juan Santamaría Airport just west of the capital but decided to return after detecting a failure in the hydraulic system. Officials say that upon landing the aircraft skidded, turned and broke in two, exposing its cargo.

A spokesman for cargo carrier DHL says both pilots were unharmed but one was being undergoing a medical check as a precaution.


https://www.wearecentralpa.com/news/pho ... osta-rica/

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Postby Shyster » Sat Apr 09, 2022 6:12 pm

Video of the DHL 757 accident:






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Postby shafnutz05 » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:57 am

Good.

https://dnyuz.com/2022/04/20/a-youtuber ... -a-a-says/
The Federal Aviation Administration has found that Trevor Jacob, a daredevil YouTuber who posted a video of himself last year parachuting out of a plane that he claimed had malfunctioned, purposely abandoned the aircraft and allowed it to crash into the Los Padres National Forest in Southern California.

In a letter to Mr. Jacob on April 11, the F.A.A. said he had violated federal aviation regulations and operated his single-engine plane in a “careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the life or property of another.”

The agency said it would immediately revoke Mr. Jacob’s private pilot certificate, effectively ending his permission to operate any aircraft.

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Postby Shyster » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:10 am

Very good.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:51 am

what the actual ****


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Postby Shyster » Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:10 pm

I recall that after that crash the leading theories were a battery fire in one of the pilots' phones or tablets. That the pilots were smoking and that a cigarette caused the fire is both sad and shocking. I bet Egyptair disputes that conclusion, because otherwise they're going to get fried by the lawsuits.

On another recent aviation story, a few weeks ago there were reports that an Air France 777-200ER landing at Paris-Charles de Gaulle had experienced "unresponsive controls" during a go-around. The initial report of the BEA (the French air-investigation agency) found nothing wrong with the aircraft. The aircraft was coming in for a CAT III ILS landing when the pilots (for reasons not explained in the report) decided to go around. During the go-around, both the captain and first officer made control inputs, but in opposite directions. Because the 777 has yokes that move in sync with control inputs, and each pilot can "feel" the other's inputs, the pilots interpreted what they were feeling as a control issue. Basically, the pilots became confused as to who was supposed to be the Pilot Flying and the Pilot Monitoring at the time, they didn't realize that they were both trying to fly the aircraft, and they interpreted what they were each feeling through the yoke as a control problem when they were actually "fighting" each other's control inputs.

https://bea.aero/fileadmin/user_upload/ ... 270422.pdf

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Postby NTP66 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:22 pm

That’s equally scary.

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Postby tifosi77 » Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:25 pm

Haven't there been other mishaps with similar cross-control miscues? I feel like I've read that before.

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Postby Shyster » Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:55 pm

Yes, more commonly with Airbus aircraft. The most prominent would be Air France Flight 447, which was the Airbus A330 that crashed into the Atlantic in 2009. The pilot tubes froze over, which resulted in inaccurate airspeed and altitude readings. The autopilot kicked off, and the pilots managed to stall the aircraft in their confusion. As it stalled, the pilots became confused as to who was supposed to be flying. The pilot in the left seat correctly pushed his side-stick forward to bring the aircraft's nose down, which is the proper way to recover from a stall. The pilot in the right seat incorrectly pulled his stick back, which will only deepen a stall. Because the side-sticks in an Airbus aren't cross-linked and don't have force feedback, the pilots didn't know that they were making conflicting inputs. And when the sticks in an Airbus sense conflicting inputs, the fight-control computers "average" the inputs, so each pilot was basically canceling out the other.

Same thing happened to Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501. The captain of the Airbus A320 tried to fix a recurring warning that was annoying the crew by pulling a circuit breaker in flight, which wasn't an authorized thing do and which he didn't realize would also reset the flight computer and turn off the autopilot. The pilots became confused by the autopilot kicking off and a bunch of warnings sounding, and they managed to stall the aircraft. In the stall, the captain correctly pushed his stick forward, the FO incorrectly pulled his stick back, and the control inputs were averaged, which wasn't nose-down enough for the aircraft to recover from the stall before it hit the Java Sea.

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Postby RonnieFranchise » Sun May 01, 2022 10:36 pm

They’re grounding the SOFIA 747SP :(

Benefits no longer justify the cost. Good for the government cutting cost that’s no longer a significant benefit but sorry to see it go.

https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2022/04 ... f_mission/

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Postby Tomas » Mon May 16, 2022 3:06 pm

Regarding the interior design guy who landed the plane with no flying experience:

I found the long transcript of his discussion with the authorities. He seems to me incredibly well informed about transponders, frequencies, etc. I myself would have completely stumbled on Question No. 1. Frankly, I find it somewhat odd...
How mid air drama unfolded when passenger told air traffic control: 'I'm in a serious situation here, my pilot has gone incoherent'

Passenger: I've got a serious situation here. My pilot has gone incoherent. I have no idea how to fly the airplane but I am...

ATC: What's your position?

Passenger: I have no idea. I see the coast of Florida in front of me and I have no idea.

ATC: Do you know how to operate the transponder 7700?

Passenger: Stand by, let me see. Repeat that frequency default.

ATC: Disable and put 7700 into your transponder.

Passenger: 7700, yes, yes.

ATC: Can you say again what the situation is?

Passenger: Pilot is incoherent.

ATC: That came in a little broken. What was the situation with the pilot?

Passenger: He is incoherent. He is out.

ATC: Roger. Try to hold the wings level and see if you can start descending for me. Push forward on the controls and descend at a very slow rate.

Passenger: Yea, they are descending right now at 550 feet a minute, passing 86/40.

ATC: Continue the descent and try to level off at 5,000 feet.

Passenger: 10/4 What heading do I need to be at? Give me a... heading because I have no control. (Muffled...)

ATC: Maintain length level and just try to follow the coast either north or southbound. We're trying to locate you.

Passenger: 10/4. Passing 8600.

ATC: If able, hit the ivent button on the trans monitor.

Passenger: Which one is it?

ATC: On the trans monitor there is a button that says ivent. Hit the ivent button for me.

Passenger: I, the I what?

ATC: Ivent.

Passenger: I'm looking for it; can't find it.

ATC: If able, I have a frequency for you to put into your radio. It's 1, 32.15 132 15 - that's Palm Beach approach. They may have a better idea of where you're at.

Passenger: (Muffled)

ATC: Did you copy the frequency? 1, 32.15

Passenger: No

ATC: No problem. Just continue to stay wings I will maintain 5,000 and follow the coast and we're gonna try to find you here on the radar.

Passenger: Okay. 10/4.

Passenger: You guys located me yet? I can't even get my screen to turn on. It has all the information on it. Any ideas on that?

ATC: Palm Beach, is… he's… telling me you're about 20 miles east of Boca Raton. Just continue northbound over the beach and we'll try to get you some more further instructions. Continue to maintain 5,000 northbound over the beach.

Passenger: So, I've got the coast in my headlights. I'm at 72/80. Do I need to get lower?

ATC: You're at 72/80 for your altitude?

Passenger: Yea, (Muffled)

ATC: Just continue the slow descent until you get to 5,000 feet and continue northbound over the beach and we'll get you further instructions and get you toward an airport.

Passenger: So, northbound over the beach?

ATC: Do you have a cellphone with you?

Passenger: Yes, I do.

ATC: Do you have a cellphone number? Give me the phone number and we'll try to get you in touch with someone that can help you.

Passenger: ***-***-

ATC: Are you still with me?

Passenger: **** ATC:

Say it again.

Passenger: ***-***-****

ATC: I hear ***-****. What's the area code?

Passenger: *** ATC: I heard the number ***-****. What's the area code for it?

Passenger: ***

ATC: You still with me? Fort Pierce Tower.

Passenger: I'm going off the coast, it looks like a little bit southwest.

ATC: I'm having trouble hearing you. I heard you said something about southwest. Can you say again your cellphone number?

Passenger: (Muffled) I have no idea how to stop the airplane. I don't know how to do anything.

ATC: Standby I've got some emergency situation going on. If you can hear me I have a phone number for you; ***-***-****. ***-***-****. If you receive that, give that phone number a call on your cellphone, if able.

Passenger: (Muffled)

ATC: Did you hear the transmission? Can you hear me?

Passenger: Loud and clear?

ATC: Did you hear the phone number I gave you? It's ***-***-****. ***-***-****. Sir, if you heard the phone number, if you can give that a call, they can get you in touch with somebody that can help you maneuver that plane. Continue following the coast Can you confirm that you got that phone number? If you can, on your cellphone, give that phone number a call. They're gonna get you in touch with somebody that can help you maneuver that plane.

Passenger: Okay

ATC: While you're making that call, just remain on the frequency and we're gonna try and get you some more help. Is the pilot unconscious?

Passenger: (Muffled)

ATC: Can you tell me how many personnel are on the plane with you?

Passenger: I don't know. (Muffled)

ATC: Palm Beach approach is gonna talk to you. They're gonna direct you to the Palm Beach Airport. You should hear them on this frequency momentarily.

(Other people butt in. Long silence)

(More traffic from other flights. Long silence)

ATC: This is Fort Pierce tower - are you on the frequency?

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Postby Shyster » Mon May 16, 2022 6:01 pm

I found some news articles that mentioned that although the passenger had never personally operated an aircraft, he had been a passenger on private aircraft before and had watched pilots as they operated. So he did have some idea as to what a transponder was and how some stuff worked.

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Postby tifosi77 » Mon May 16, 2022 8:15 pm

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I don't know that the first question is necessarily so ATC can tell where the aircraft is as much as it is to assess if the new pilot knows where he is and what the condition the aircraft is.

And all of this unfolding at Palm Beach International - a hop, skip, and a jump for the former President's digs - probably injects some additional urgency.

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