Politics And Current Events

Post by **MR25** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:35 pm

Part of me wonders how this Roy Moore thing would've shaken out if he had diddled 14 year old boys instead of a girl.

The GOP likes to pretend they care about this kind of thing, but they're pretty transparent here.

Post by **grunthy** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:41 pm

MR25 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:35 pm Part of me wonders how this Roy Moore thing would've shaken out if he had diddled 14 year old boys instead of a girl.

The GOP likes to pretend they care about this kind of thing, but they're pretty transparent here.

Do you honestly believe the Democrats care?

Post by **MR25** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:42 pm

Their actions thus far lead me to believe they care more about it than the GOP by comparison.

Emphasis on "by comparison because I'm sure someone will try to twist this.

Post by **bhflyhigh** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:45 pm

What does it even matter anyways? The comment was about Roy Moore and the GOP. It's just another comment deflecting from the actual point adding nothing to the original post. Classic nobody.

Post by **grunthy** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:04 pm

bhflyhigh wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:45 pm What does it even matter anyways? The comment was about Roy Moore and the GOP. It's just another comment deflecting from the actual point adding nothing to the original post. Classic nobody.

No. The GOP doesn’t even care. It’s the Dems that pretend to care.

Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:08 pm

nobody wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:04 pm
bhflyhigh wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:45 pm What does it even matter anyways? The comment was about Roy Moore and the GOP. It's just another comment deflecting from the actual point adding nothing to the original post. Classic nobody.

No. The GOP doesn’t even care. It’s the Dems that pretend to care.

A distinction you've deemed worthy....how?

Post by **tifosi77** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:15 pm

Between the content of Franken's speech, and DWS on Andrea Mitchell's show a few minutes ago, I'm convinced AF's resignation is indeed part of an overarching Democratic strategy to pin-harassment-on-the-elephant heading into the mid-terms.

Post by **grunthy** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:28 pm

tifosi77 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:15 pm Between the content of Franken's speech, and DWS on Andrea Mitchell's show a few minutes ago, I'm convinced AF's resignation is indeed part of an overarching Democratic strategy to pin-harassment-on-the-elephant heading into the mid-terms.

They can unpin it by expelling Moore if he wins.

Post by **tifosi77** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:31 pm

Considering Moore has the full voiced support of the President (who is the leader of the party), what do you think are the odds of that happening?

Post by **slappybrown** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:33 pm

As I said to Freddy last night, the notion that the GOP would even bring Moore to an expulsion vote, let alone that 21 GOP senators are going to vote with the Dems to get to the 2/3 needed to expel, is really something.

Post by **grunthy** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:39 pm

tifosi77 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:31 pm Considering Moore has the full voiced support of the President (who is the leader of the party), what do you think are the odds of that happening?

Low.

Post by **MR25** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:44 pm

... Which is why I wondered if it would be different for the GOP if he had touched little boys instead.

Post by **Kaiser** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:49 pm

Then he'd be gay, and terminated by his own constituency.

Post by **Factorial** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:50 pm

The House is having a hearing with someone from the FBI and it's all Clinton scandal questions from the GOP. They're still going on about that meeting on the tarmac.

Post by **MR25** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:52 pm

Kaiser wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:49 pm Then he'd be gay, and terminated by his own constituency.

That's probably the extremely sad truth.

Post by **tifosi77** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:04 pm

Sarah Sanders just said she's unaware of any other foreign nations that plan on following the US in moving their Israeli embassies to Jerusalem.

Post by **Freddy Rumsen** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:25 pm

NEW: An look inside the chamber during Al Franken's resignation speech, which included Dem senators and Franken staffers wiping I tears

https://t.co/VSCOLugAa4

Post by **Freddy Rumsen** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:35 pm

https://twitter.com/mikehtrujillo/statu ... 6571129856

"SOURCES: @CNN and @washingtonpost working on exposing 20-30 congressional members 4 sexual harassment. #DC"

Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:36 pm

So, by precedent, the GOP will deny the allegations and then expect the Democrat to resign.

Post by **Silentom** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:36 pm

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Post by **Freddy Rumsen** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:44 pm

Troy Loney wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:36 pm So, by precedent, the GOP will deny the allegations and then expect the Democrat to resign.

Tim Murphy resigned a couple months ago, and there have been plenty of calls by GOP folks for Roy Moore to step aside.

Post by **MR25** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:46 pm

And that's exactly why the RNC is funding Moore's election bid...

Wait.

Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:47 pm

Freddy Rumsen wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:44 pm
Troy Loney wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:36 pm So, by precedent, the GOP will deny the allegations and then expect the Democrat to resign.
Tim Murphy resigned a couple months ago, and there have been plenty of calls by GOP folks for Roy Moore to step aside.

Not sure how the Tim Murphy situation fits in. I thought that had more to do with his brazen hypocrisy.

Post by **slappybrown** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:49 pm

this is an extremely good faith argument, just like last night with citing to the coming ethics inquiry that is the first step toward expulsion that will totally happen

Post by **Troy Loney** » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:51 pm

MR25 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:46 pm And that's exactly why the RNC is funding Moore's election bid...

Wait.

Moore is getting the Trump treatment. When the story was headline news, there were calls to step aside, when the initial story died down, they moved to a let the voters decide viewpoint. Granted, there is some nuance in that the GOP members' stories occurred in midst of an election and not while serving. But that does not explain why Fahrentold's story has been ignored for the most part.