Fifth Avenue Forum

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2015 5:20 pm**

Sure, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about Experts in a field that can't be quantified appointed by networks that don't care if they're right or wrong. It's educated guessing at best. I said Kiper's draft report card is meaningless. It's based on how he thinks they should have been taken, and the record shows where he thinks picks should be taken doesn't have any statistical value.

Congrats, the Steelers got an A- from Mel Kiper in 2015. He gave the Seahawks a C- in 2012. Forgive me for not being buoyed by his optimism.

Exactly, that's why I said I ignore any "grade" or whatever. Im saying its difficult to say Kiper is objectively bad without comparing him to his peers

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2015 6:55 pm**

The first article I posted shows that both him and his closest peer are bad.

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2015 7:08 pm**

I'd say it's a pretty inexact "science" to begin with. otherwise there would be a lot less busts and few surprises. It makes me scratch my head that these guys are somewhat deified by the unwashed masses. Fortunately for me, I can choose to not watch/listen to anything they say.

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2015 7:11 pm**

The same could be said of scouting staffs and GMs who follow their advice.

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2015 9:34 pm**

Interesting find... look at who this mock draft had the steelers taking in the first round:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-draf ... iah/215603

now look who they actually took in the 7th...

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2015 9:45 pm**

With Draft Analysts being so proficient I can only assume the Steelers got one hell of a bargain.

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2015 9:50 pm**

Interesting find... look at who this mock draft had the steelers taking in the first round:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-draf ... iah/215603

now look who they actually took in the 7th...

To be fair that was written in January... lot of changes from now till then on quite a few of those players.

Posted: **Sun May 03, 2015 10:01 pm**

oh, no... I completely agree that it means jack squat. I just thought it was interesting.

Posted: **Mon May 04, 2015 11:57 am**

Do da Stillers employ any of their good guy retired players to help mentor rookies off the field?

Posted: **Mon May 04, 2015 12:17 pm**

Do da Stillers employ any of their good guy retired players to help mentor rookies off the field?

Joey Porter?

Posted: **Mon May 04, 2015 12:19 pm**

Jerry Olsavsky is ILB coach. Joey Porter is OLB coach. Carnell Lake is DB coach.

Posted: **Mon May 04, 2015 12:20 pm**

Sure, but any who aren't coaches?
I guess I'm thinking of a player development role, with an emphasis on keeping your nose clean and learning how to be a professional off the field.

Posted: **Mon May 04, 2015 12:29 pm**

You mean a babysitter?

Posted: **Mon May 04, 2015 12:38 pm**

i was just being facetious

Posted: **Mon May 04, 2015 9:08 pm**

here's the round up of the grades the pros gave the steelers:

http://pit.247sports.com/Bolt/Pittsburg ... p-37107340

ranges from A to D.

Posted: **Mon May 04, 2015 9:14 pm**

LOL Rotoworld.

Posted: **Tue May 05, 2015 4:04 pm**

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2453 ... =editorial

LOLOLOLOL. NFL dumb.

Posted: **Tue May 05, 2015 4:07 pm**

I doubt the nfl is dumb enough to read bleacher report.

Posted: **Tue May 05, 2015 4:54 pm**

Steelers should sign La'el Collins.

Posted: **Tue May 05, 2015 5:06 pm**

hey, we're secretly planning to move a team across the country. Quick, get the web-designer.

1 day later.

Professional web-designer: I think I'll put this on the production network.

Yeah, okay.

Posted: **Tue May 05, 2015 5:09 pm**

hey, we're secretly planning to move a team across the country. Quick, get the web-designer.

1 day later.

Professional web-designer: I think I'll put this on the production network.

Yeah, okay.

SEC accidently posted all of their "Welcome Texas A&M" stuff on their live web before the deal was even done and a pending lawsuit from Baylor was going on. They had to immediately take it down and 4 months later, they put it back up when it was officially announced.

It happens.

Posted: **Tue May 05, 2015 5:10 pm**

College? Pffft, amateurs.

Posted: **Tue May 05, 2015 5:11 pm**

PS, I agree with you guys that there is nothing behind it.

Posted: **Wed May 06, 2015 12:34 pm**

Re:Chip Kelly

You see how fast he got rid of all the good players. Especially all the good black players. He got rid of them the fastest. That's the truth. There's a reason. ... It's hard to explain with him. But there's a reason he got rid of all the black players -- the good ones -- like that.

Posted: **Wed May 06, 2015 12:36 pm**

So DeMarco Murray will be gone soon?