Fifth Avenue Forum

I agree somewhat with mikey as to Outback not being a pure takeout place. It's a casual restaurant that has now added a takeaway service (and according to its website also delivers in select markets). But I think that would be a problem between Outback and its servers. I do not believe it would create an obligation to tip. To provide more nuance, Eat'N Park, like Outback, would not be considered a pure takeout place. One of the Eat'N Park locations on McKnight Road (the one near the big GetGo) has a drive-up window just like a Taco Bell or Mickey Ds. If I place a takeout order from that restaurant, would I be under an obligation to hand a tip back through the drive-through window because Eat'N Park is not a pure takeout place? I say no.

This isn’t about being right, it’s about doing right for the employees.

Let me know if you open a restaurant - I’ll get on Yelp and encourage people to skip it.

Hey, I'm all for paying servers more. I'm on the waitress's side here. But your proposed solution, while obviously well-intended, isn't the correct mechanism to make that happen in this (or any) instance. That's all I'm saying. We want the same outcome.

I tip in a lot of situations, so can’t fathom not tipping in this instance

Even for a shitty lunch under $10 at a sit down place, I always tip at least $3. These people have to pay bills too.

You eat pieces of **** for lunch?!

Altho the story has a decent ending: The church has gotten in touch with the waitress, and several parishioners got together upon hearing the news and pooled a 20%+ tip for her, and they are working to help her find a new job.

You eat pieces of **** for lunch?!

I went out for bad Mexican today, so more outcome related.

Eat in - tip 20+%

Delivery - tip ~15%

Takeout - No tip

Though, this is a unique situation. So not sure.

I will tip 10% for takeout if the order required the staff to box up a lot of food or they had to come out in inclement weather to give me my order.

You eat pieces of **** for lunch?!

Proper etiquette is to only eat it for breakfast.

You eat pieces of **** for lunch?!

Proper etiquette is to only eat it for breakfast.

What's the basis?

I tip in a lot of situations, so can’t fathom not tipping in this instance

I tip in the situations people usually tip in. I CAN fathom not tipping in this instance. It could have easily been an act of absent mindedness or just not knowing protocol. I can honestly say there's a good chance I would forget the tip in this situation. It's likely, even. Because it's not routine.

JLD from Seinfeld where she had her hair straight was a complete knockout, it happened so rarely I can't even find a screencap. The curly hair really downplayed her look.

But wouldn't you prefer the exact same version but with 20 years of age applied?

And yes. She was a knockout. What a waste the 80's and early 90's were. How did anyone want to bang anyone?

I agree with Shyster and dodint mostly. That said, I'm going to introduce a caveat...this place is not a pure takeout place, as in, their business is not just takeout or delivery.

Yeah, one of the points the waitress said was that because she was so tied up in wrangling this catering order, she was not able to wait tables and earn tips.

If it's a pizza joint and I place an order for five za's and 80 buffalo wings and I pick it up, I am not tipping. That's what you do. That's why you exist...is to make me chicken wings.

Do you tip at a sit-down restaurant? Cos that's what they do. They exist for you to eat food they cook you, in a room with a lid.

I regard tipping for delivery as a sort of 'convenience charge' for bringing the food to my house.

Right.

Of course I tip at a sit-down restaurant. What they do is make food, what I receive is a personal service direct to my person. That's what elicits a tip.

JLD from Seinfeld where she had her hair straight was a complete knockout, it happened so rarely I can't even find a screencap. The curly hair really downplayed her look.

But wouldn't you prefer the exact same version but with 20 years of age applied?

And yes. She was a knockout. What a waste the 80's and early 90's were. How did anyone want to bang anyone?

Nah. If ever I wanted a Time Machine it would be to take a run at Sally Field in 1977.

I agree with Shyster and dodint mostly. That said, I'm going to introduce a caveat...this place is not a pure takeout place, as in, their business is not just takeout or delivery.

Yeah, one of the points the waitress said was that because she was so tied up in wrangling this catering order, she was not able to wait tables and earn tips.

If it's a pizza joint and I place an order for five za's and 80 buffalo wings and I pick it up, I am not tipping. That's what you do. That's why you exist...is to make me chicken wings.

Do you tip at a sit-down restaurant? Cos that's what they do. They exist for you to eat food they cook you, in a room with a lid.

I regard tipping for delivery as a sort of 'convenience charge' for bringing the food to my house.

Right.

Of course I tip at a sit-down restaurant. What they do is make food, what I receive is a personal service direct to my person. That's what elicits a tip.

And the onus is on the employer (in this case) for pretending that this wasn’t a unique situation and properly allowing for their employees (who live in tips) busting their butts and not getting one; once discovered (in the absence of an automatic gratuity), you open the cash drawer and deal with it. They’ve endured ( in terms of money) far more bad PR than it would have cost them.....see that crazy case of dragging the passenger off the plane, albeit at a lower scale.

Nah. If ever I wanted a Time Machine it would be to take a run at Sally Field in 1977.

Well, you already have the Delorean...

Need a Firebird, though.

If I ever get independently wealthy I am 100% buying a Pontiac Firebird from that era.

My neighbor had a new one when I was a kid, black with red interior and I idolized that thing.

If I ever am independently wealthy, I'm getting a P-51D.

If I ever am independently wealthy, I'm getting a P-51D.

Have you seen the Dirty Money episode on Scott Tucker?

I'd settle for a late 70s Bronco or a Jeep CJ7.

If I ever am independently wealthy, I'm getting a P-51D.

Is that the extent of the aircraft fantasy? Because I totally have more steps in mine. Start with a used Cirrus SR-22 to learn to fly, move up to a Pilatus PC-12NG turboprop as a higher-performance intermediate aircraft, and while I'm flying the PC-12 put in a deposit for the new Pilatus PC-24 bizjet, which can still be flown single-pilot.

If I were going to buy an old warbird, I'd really like to own a Bell P-39 Airacobra. My grandfather worked for Bell Aircraft during WWII; he was the manager who oversaw the final checks before the aircraft were handed over to the test pilots for their test flights. He once told me he'd shake the hand of each test pilot before the check flight.

That is not the extent, that is the start.