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We've got the full meal deal, including the full tort option...
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I've been browsing orange Wranglers the last few days and it reminded me how nauseating the car buying experience is. The sales manager at Jim Shorkey dicked me around for 2 days and wouldn't give me a price. Today, I contacted a Jeep dealership in Johnstown which had a leftover 2018 on the lot. The salesman offered to give me the amazing deal of selling it to me at full MSRP ($41K) if I bought within the next few days. I explained that I'd consider a 2018, but would need 20% off since 2020s will be out in just a few months. He didn't respond.
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Rotor holding screws are Man's worst invention; change my mind.
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Change your mind and fight me at the same time, because you're 100% correct.Rotor holding screws are Man's worst invention; change my mind.
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From what I understand, Wranglers are popular and keep their value spectacularly well, so I can sort of understand the dealers not budging on the price. My family owned one back in the 90s, and the amount my mother got for it on a trade-in after years of ownership was still very substantial.
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That's mostly true, but there's an oversupply of 2018s sitting on lots. They made way too many.From what I understand, Wranglers are popular and keep their value spectacularly well, so I can sort of understand the dealers not budging on the price. My family owned one back in the 90s, and the amount my mother got for it on a trade-in after years of ownership was still very substantial.
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And most sane people wouldn't consider spending $41k on a Wrangler.
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That's a base model?And most sane people wouldn't consider spending $41k on a Wrangler.
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I have no idea, but my jaw will drop if it is.
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In the last year Car and Driver ran a comparo of the big three pickup trucks, all of them in top-of-the-line trim for the quarter-ton versions. All of them were over $60,000, and the Ford F-150 was over $70,000. Now, I know that was for the Platinum/King/Ranch/Look At Me trim levels, but damn, that's insane money for a freakin' pickup truck.
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Can't say I ever had much of an issue with one. Had a head snap off once during a rotor change, but an 1/8" drill bit fixes it real quick.Rotor holding screws are Man's worst invention; change my mind.
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I certainly won't.That's a base model?And most sane people wouldn't consider spending $41k on a Wrangler.
This is a Sport S with a bunch of random "convenience" options, most of which I have no interest in.
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Two different impact guns, totally bathed in PB Blaster, and all I’ve got to show for it is a broken torx impact socket. It’s nearly a 1/2” diameter sucker too.Can't say I ever had much of an issue with one. Had a head snap off once during a rotor change, but an 1/8" drill bit fixes it real quick.Rotor holding screws are Man's worst invention; change my mind.
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This was me a few years ago, CB. Same exact results. I had to throw my wheels back on and have a shop use a **** air chisel to get it out.Two different impact guns, totally bathed in PB Blaster, and all I’ve got to show for it is a broken torx impact socket. It’s nearly a 1/2” diameter sucker too.Can't say I ever had much of an issue with one. Had a head snap off once during a rotor change, but an 1/8" drill bit fixes it real quick.Rotor holding screws are Man's worst invention; change my mind.
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Drill it out.
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Drilling it out didn’t work, and I went through multiple bits. This was using a high torque electric drill, too.
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Is this the MINI?Two different impact guns, totally bathed in PB Blaster, and all I’ve got to show for it is a broken torx impact socket. It’s nearly a 1/2” diameter sucker too.Can't say I ever had much of an issue with one. Had a head snap off once during a rotor change, but an 1/8" drill bit fixes it real quick.Rotor holding screws are Man's worst invention; change my mind.
I buy new ones every few rotor changes.
I just got in from the garage, changed out the flapper in my DISA valve. I knew it was going bad because it was humming, but when I got it apart it wasn't even actuating. Hopefully it clears up my intermittent lean condition.
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Come to think of it, now that I have switched to wheel studs instead of lug bolts I probably do not need the retention bolt anymore. Not going to test the theory, though.
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Out of curiosity, why do you keep putting the screws on? They’re really only there to hold the rotor on while the calipers are installed on the factory line.
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Getting ready to order all new pads, rotors and parking brakes for the Mazda. Really not looking forward to those stupid screws. Never had to deal with them on any of my GM's...
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Lug bolts. The retention bolt holds the rotor on while you do maintence like pad changes. Without them, or studs, they would shift out of place. Even with the caliper on you run the risk of the bolt holes not lining upnwhen the rotor slips while the wheel is off.Out of curiosity, why do you keep putting the screws on? They’re really only there to hold the rotor on while the calipers are installed on the factory line.
BMW and MINI parts places sell a holder you can put in there to prevent this. Kinda silly though.
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A worthy contender for worst invention...Lug bolts.
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Damn. I must have been getting lucky. My cordless impact driver backed almost all of them right out.Two different impact guns, totally bathed in PB Blaster, and all I’ve got to show for it is a broken torx impact socket. It’s nearly a 1/2” diameter sucker too.Can't say I ever had much of an issue with one. Had a head snap off once during a rotor change, but an 1/8" drill bit fixes it real quick.Rotor holding screws are Man's worst invention; change my mind.
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No joy with a MAP torch, drill bit here I come.
Yep, it’s the Mini. The previous owner had just had the car fully gone through when he wrecked it, so I haven’t had to touch too much of it.
Another vote for moving to studs.
Yep, it’s the Mini. The previous owner had just had the car fully gone through when he wrecked it, so I haven’t had to touch too much of it.
Another vote for moving to studs.
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Drill em out once... Never replace. Problem solved.Change your mind and fight me at the same time, because you're 100% correct.Rotor holding screws are Man's worst invention; change my mind.
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