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Postby Craig » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:30 pm

Pay for what?

The league? The NFL.
The education? The student...same way every other student does it. In this case, the student has been making money for a couple of years so they have a head start.

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Postby CBear3 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:50 pm

The education was my question, and you know those guys aren't going to bank $20k of the $50k a year they'd pull in.
If I'm a HS counselor there's no way I tell a kid to pass up getting a free education even in something generic versus a D-league. How many of those skill position guys who got underwater basket weaving degrees are still getting paid on their reputation from that one catch during that one game how long ago?

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:00 pm

Source of the post personally, i feel that with the ever growing CTE/head trauma data, football will see a declining popularity in the next generation.
Agreed. If I had a son, there's little to no chance that I'd let him play football.
This isn't a case of the sport suddenly becoming exponentially more dangerous than it was when you and I were kids. (Not that that's your argument) As medical science has expanded its knowledge, they know more about what constitutes a concussion, and how to properly diagnose them. So it's more akin to the explosive rise in autism cases; there isn't necessarily more autism today, doctors are just better equipped to identify cases.

Fwiw, if there was a little Tiflette running around, he'd be encouraged to play whatever sport his little heart wanted.

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Postby mikey » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:02 pm

I only read headlines, so I assumed this developmental league was focused on the transition between college and pro...college would still be the 99% feeder system and the d-league would be for development and/or players that aren't good enough...like the AHL...

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Postby tifosi77 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:04 pm

And regarding this NFLD thing...... they've got the initial positioning screwed up. I think it would be better served as a supplement, rather than an alternative, to NCAA ball. Let those players with marginal talent - 6th, 7th rounders, undrafted UFAs, etc - go there and get some consideration beyond the free education that 95% of those guys will not be able to exploit in their non-football life, maybe allow some of those guys to develop their skills and enter the NFL draft with a couple seasons of professional play under their belt.

Edit: Sort of what mikey...... said.
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Postby Craig » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:05 pm

If youre offerred a full ride, by all means go get 3/4 of an addition subtraction and 2 syllable words degree. This isnt replacing the college route. All college athletes dont have that full ride.

Aside from that...it seems like faith in the continued education system is diminishing.

Edit: if its a transition program...no one should be whining at all then and i cant believe i engaged with such stupidity.
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Postby columbia » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:20 pm

This idea seems like it would just take advantage of the dumber post-HS football players, as they would be more likely to go for a short term cash grab.

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Postby Beveridge » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:22 pm

This idea seems like it would just take advantage of the dumber post-HS football players, as they would be more likely to go for a short term cash grab.
Go on.

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Postby columbia » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:26 pm

I'm not sure what that means.

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Postby Beveridge » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:27 pm

That most ideas take advantage of the dumber "insert target group here" population.

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Postby slappybrown » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:32 pm

It's a perfect trifecta on why I don't like soccer in the US. Faux patriotic support for that team, pool play, and a **** tie. Perfect storm of triggers.
Excuse me, sir... that's my word. Please refrain from ever using it again.
I think @mikey 's accusation of your using "triggered" in a lot of posts has triggered you since you keep doing this :pop:

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Postby count2infinity » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:33 pm

I'M NOT MAD, YOU'RE MAD!

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Postby columbia » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:33 pm

You are sooooo angry.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:34 pm

This league would have four teams and lets assume about 80 players each. That's 320 players spread out over four age groups. That means you would have to attract about 20 players per team each year (assuming there are no washouts) to be in the "recruiting classes." If the league could find a way to attract the top 1% of football recruits to the league, it honestly could be successful provided that they can legitimately groom players to be successful in the NFL. To do that, the league would have to a.) attract top talent and b) show that dedicating 100% of your time to football at ages 19-23 is more valuable than a college education.

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:34 pm

I'M NOT MAD, YOU'RE MAD!
go watch some video games :pop:

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Postby mikey » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:36 pm

This idea seems like it would just take advantage of the dumber post-HS football players, as they would be more likely to go for a short term cash grab.
Don't a number of dumb (student-)athletes already make it to the NCAA ranks as it is...? Is there actually a huge athletic population not being tapped into under the guise of academics...?

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:37 pm

This league would have four teams and lets assume about 80 players each. That's 320 players spread out over four age groups. That means you would have to attract about 20 players per team each year (assuming there are no washouts) to be in the "recruiting classes." If the league could find a way to attract the top 1% of football recruits to the league, it honestly could be successful provided that they can legitimately groom players to be successful in the NFL. To do that, the league would have to a.) attract top talent and b) show that dedicating 100% of your time to football at ages 19-23 is more valuable than a college education.
It's 50 players per team, each making $50K per year plus whatever individual endorsement money they can secure. Attracting 12-15 players per team per year seems a bit more manageable.

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Postby columbia » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:38 pm

This idea seems like it would just take advantage of the dumber post-HS football players, as they would be more likely to go for a short term cash grab.
Don't a number of dumb (student-)athletes already make it to the NCAA ranks as it is...? Is there actually a huge athletic population not being tapped into under the guise of academics...?
Theoretically, they have the chance to complete a college degree.

My suspicion is that 50%+ of kids entering this league will wash out after a year, have an extra $3K in their pocket and be ineligible to parlay their skills for a college degree.

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:53 pm

Plus let's be real, a lot of them would get 50K while playing college ball too

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Postby columbia » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:00 pm

:lol:

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:04 pm

Really what it boils down to it, you can argue that if they convince the best 4 QBs each year to try this out, it could really work.

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Postby slappybrown » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:55 pm

https://m.sporcle.com/games/Caedus/here-we-go-again

Got it with 55 seconds to spare

Fight me

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Postby Freddy Rumsen » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:27 pm

SF/Cin was the one that tripped me up. Got it with 39 seconds left.

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Rooting for the falcons

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Atlanta not on national TV much.

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