Magic Number thread

FreeCandy44
Posts: 2179
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:55 am
Location: Somewhere In Time

Magic Number thread

Postby FreeCandy44 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:15 pm

Wha?

count2infinity
Posts: 35541
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:06 pm
Location: All things must pass. With six you get eggroll. No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney.
Contact:

Magic Number thread

Postby count2infinity » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:20 pm

Image

2 points guarantees a clinch.

NAN
Posts: 11546
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:26 pm
Location: shoeshine boy is a lady

Magic Number thread

Postby NAN » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:21 pm

Lets just win one more.

King Colby
Posts: 17786
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:35 pm

Magic Number thread

Postby King Colby » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:27 pm

Okay, things are getting a little weird with Boston possibly losing tonight. The magic number would be 1 or 2 if I'm reading the tie breaker rules correctly:


1. The fewer number of games played (i.e., superior points percentage).
Doesn't matter at the end of the season

2. The greater number of games won, excluding games won in the Shootout. This figure is reflected in the ROW column.
Pens are at 38, Boston at 37. Let's assume the Pens get OTL or non-ROW and the Bruins win their final game... then they'd be tied

3. The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing.
This is the one that confuses me... Pens and Bruins have played 3 times. We beat them there, they beat us both times here. If I'm reading this correctly, the two games that are considered are our OTW in Boston and their 2-0 win in Pittsburgh, so they'd win this tie breaker

4. The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season.
If I'm not reading #3 incorrectly and this one matters, then we are currently winning this one
You read #3 correctly. Boston owns that tiebreaker so if they win in regulation and the Pens go 0-1-1, Boston is in.

Beveridge
Posts: 5336
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:17 pm
Location: 8-8-1

Magic Number thread

Postby Beveridge » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:31 pm

These next 48 hours give the ones who beat their chest about the shootouts more fodder.

In all honesty, if we don't make the playoffs, we don't deserve it. Shootouts be damned.

count2infinity
Posts: 35541
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:06 pm
Location: All things must pass. With six you get eggroll. No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney.
Contact:

Magic Number thread

Postby count2infinity » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:33 pm

And if we do make it in, we still deserve it... I don't care what anyone says. Those are the rules, and we then made the playoffs and have a chance at the cup. The whole "I don't even want to see them make the playoffs" stuff doesn't make any sense to me.

Beveridge
Posts: 5336
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:17 pm
Location: 8-8-1

Magic Number thread

Postby Beveridge » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:34 pm

And if we do make it in, we still deserve it... I don't care what anyone says. Those are the rules, and we then made the playoffs and have a chance at the cup. The whole "I don't even want to see them make the playoffs" stuff doesn't make any sense to me.

Oh, I agree. You earned if you made it and you earned it if you didn't.

Tico Rick
Posts: 3267
Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:11 am
Location: Earth

Magic Number thread

Postby Tico Rick » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:39 pm

Is there an online hypothetical anywhere that shows what the standings would look like if we had 3-point games. (Three points for a regulation win, 2 for an overtime win, and 1 for an overtime loss?)

count2infinity
Posts: 35541
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:06 pm
Location: All things must pass. With six you get eggroll. No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney.
Contact:

Magic Number thread

Postby count2infinity » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:42 pm

I'm not aware of one that stays active.

Beveridge
Posts: 5336
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:17 pm
Location: 8-8-1

Magic Number thread

Postby Beveridge » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:46 pm

I found Western Conference but oddly they had no Eastern one done.

As of yesterday morning:

Image

King Colby
Posts: 17786
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:35 pm

Magic Number thread

Postby King Colby » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:09 pm

Metro:
1. NYR 159
2. WSH 141
3. NYI 137

Atlantic:
1. TB 153
2. MTL 151
3. DET 136

WC:
1. PIT 134
2. OTT 133
3. BOS 132


So basically exactly the same

King Colby
Posts: 17786
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:35 pm

Magic Number thread

Postby King Colby » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:15 pm

Old standings - 2 point win, 0 point loss, 1 point tie:

1. NYR 107
2. WSH 96
3. PIT 92

1. TB 104
2. MTL 102
3. DET 94

1. NYI 91 (39 W)
2. BOS 91 (37 W)
3. OTT 91 (36 W)

King Colby
Posts: 17786
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:35 pm

Magic Number thread

Postby King Colby » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:16 pm

Long story short, the point system isn't really all that impactful but to inflate everybody's totals relatively evenly.

TheHammer24
Posts: 218
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:59 pm

Magic Number thread

Postby TheHammer24 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:31 pm

Image

King Colby
Posts: 17786
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:35 pm

Magic Number thread

Postby King Colby » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:38 pm

Image
It's still 2.

Beveridge
Posts: 5336
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:17 pm
Location: 8-8-1

Magic Number thread

Postby Beveridge » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:41 am

It can be 1, Boston wins in a shootout while we only get one point. However, 2 is more accurate because we can still get one point and not make it.

BAD JUJU

Tico Rick
Posts: 3267
Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:11 am
Location: Earth

Magic Number thread

Postby Tico Rick » Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:44 am

Long story short, the point system isn't really all that impactful but to inflate everybody's totals relatively evenly.
Tell that to the L.A. Kings.

TheHammer24
Posts: 218
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:59 pm

Magic Number thread

Postby TheHammer24 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:13 am

It can be 1, Boston wins in a shootout while we only get one point. However, 2 is more accurate because we can still get one point and not make it.

BAD JUJU
Its technically two but for all intents and purposes. Boston would need to win in regulation and net and eight goal differential on the pens. The teams are 2-2 this year.

Trip McNeely
Posts: 8784
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:02 am

Magic Number thread

Postby Trip McNeely » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:15 am

It can be 1, Boston wins in a shootout while we only get one point. However, 2 is more accurate because we can still get one point and not make it.

BAD JUJU
Its technically two but for all intents and purposes. Boston would need to win in regulation and net and eight goal differential on the pens. The teams are 2-2 this year.
I thought they only played head to head 3 times this year, with the Bruins winning 2

count2infinity
Posts: 35541
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:06 pm
Location: All things must pass. With six you get eggroll. No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney.
Contact:

Magic Number thread

Postby count2infinity » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:19 am

We currently own the 1st tie break by a slim margin, Boston owns the head to head. They've only played 3 times and according to the rules since they played in pittsburgh twice, the first pittsburgh game is ignored. So the head to head is Pens 3-2 OTW in Boston and Boston's 2-0 win in Pittsburgh. That's 2 points for Pens and 3 for the Bruins. The magic number is 2. Win and you're in.

Gaucho
Posts: 49468
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:31 pm
Location: shootzepucklefraude

Magic Number thread

Postby Gaucho » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:23 am

How do people feel about not practicing shootouts now?

count2infinity
Posts: 35541
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:06 pm
Location: All things must pass. With six you get eggroll. No matter how thin you slice it, it's still baloney.
Contact:

Magic Number thread

Postby count2infinity » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:26 am

if ifs and buts were candy and nuts... or something like that. essentially if we miss the playoffs, I would put shootouts right around reason #3492 why it happened.

TheHammer24
Posts: 218
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:59 pm

Magic Number thread

Postby TheHammer24 » Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:43 am

We currently own the 1st tie break by a slim margin, Boston owns the head to head. They've only played 3 times and according to the rules since they played in pittsburgh twice, the first pittsburgh game is ignored. So the head to head is Pens 3-2 OTW in Boston and Boston's 2-0 win in Pittsburgh. That's 2 points for Pens and 3 for the Bruins. The magic number is 2. Win and you're in.
Ahhhh. I was looking at record, not points between the teams. ::Chris tamer picture::

cadams
Posts: 1090
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:27 pm

Magic Number thread

Postby cadams » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:47 am

How do people feel about not practicing shootouts now?
It shouldn't really be a focus. I'm not sure how practicing the same moves that never work would help.

cadams
Posts: 1090
Joined: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:27 pm

Magic Number thread

Postby cadams » Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:50 am

if ifs and buts were candy and nuts... or something like that. essentially if we miss the playoffs, I would put shootouts right around reason #3492 why it happened.
I'd rank the high stick goal that Boston scored in the 1/7/15 game as kind of a bigger deal right now.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests