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Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:39 pm
by King Colby
Yeah he is it's 1/1/04 to 9/15/06

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:27 am
by King Colby
Pickering's team was eliminated on Friday (by Yager and swift current). Is he going to join WBS on an ATO?

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:09 am
by mikey
He is already signed to an ELC, right? So I think he will just join the club, if they have any games left...

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:20 am
by Dickie Dunn
Yea he signed in 2022.

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:45 am
by mikey
I was surprised to hear that they got eliminated...they won their first five games of the postseason, sweeping their first opponent and got up 1-0 on Moose Jaw...then promptly lost four in a row. Though, to be fair, Moose Jaw finished ahead of them (Swift Current) in the standings...

The season is over in the AHL, so I don't know if Pickering can play or not to be honest...

Maybe I'll try to catch one of these games...

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:39 am
by Trip McNeely
I was surprised to hear that they got eliminated...they won their first five games of the postseason, sweeping their first opponent and got up 1-0 on Moose Jaw...then promptly lost four in a row. Though, to be fair, Moose Jaw finished ahead of them (Swift Current) in the standings...

The season is over in the AHL, so I don't know if Pickering can play or not to be honest...

Maybe I'll try to catch one of these games...
From the box scores, that Moose Jaw team can fill the net for sure

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:49 am
by mikey
Well, they have our boy Brandon Yager...he's only behind Jagger Firkus in playoff goals on that team.

But Moose Jaw has: Yager (14th overall), Firkus (35th overall, he led the Dub in points this year), Savoie (9th overall), Mateychuk (12th overall, who has been playing in the WHL since he was like 11 years old - he's also Pickering's cousin)...plus three other later picks.

They're a bit of wagoooooon...

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:50 am
by Dickie Dunn
Is Yager's performance this year legit or a product of being a cog in said wagon?

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:04 pm
by Trip McNeely
Even if he is a cog in the wheel, I don’t think this is a Luca Caputi thing. He’s still only 17 I believe so he’s far from an over ager. He’s put up alot of points and is performing well under pressure in the playoffs. I clearly haven’t watched any games but it looks like he was the number 1 star a few times this series alone

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:06 pm
by Gaucho
19

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:12 pm
by LITT
oh man (gian)luca caputi - havent thought of that name in a LONG time

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:24 pm
by Gaucho
Image

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:28 pm
by mikey
Just a highlight clip, but there's a lot of Yager in this video...

29 black, RHS...


Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:37 pm
by King Colby
Oops I mixed up the teams.

But doesn't Pickering have to be on an ATO so that the slide rule doesn't get affected?

Idk... rules about who can play in the AHL and when and what impact it has on contracts is a black box for me

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:50 pm
by mikey
No, the slide rule is only for NHL games when you're in your junior years...but I'm also doing all of this off memory from a CBA that's been twice altered, so I'd only give me "things said at a bar" level belief haha

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:20 pm
by MalkinIsMyHomeboy
“Jagger Firkus” is a hell of a name

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:24 pm
by King Colby
I tried to research and can't find a clear cut answer anywhere but here's what I've been able to deduce.

1. You can join at the end of your junior season if you're under contract. Won't count as burning a year if you don't play in the NHL. This includes AHL playoff eligibility. And it includes guys that will go back to juniors next year (Pickering played 8 games last year).

2. You can join on an ATO if you sign after your NCAA season ends. Eligible for playoffs. Doesn't burn a year.

So for our guys:
-Pickering can go to WBS and play playoff games
-Broz can play WBS playoff games
-Yager can sign ELC after/if his season ends and play on an ATO as well
-Yager can also play in WBS next year despite still being eligible for juniors because he completed 4 years in the CHL

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:14 pm
by MalkinIsMyHomeboy
hockey has such a complex system for prospects. I understand it probably exists for a reason but it feels so difficult for a layperson to comprehend without it being ELI5'd

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:14 pm
by Lemon Berry Lobster

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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:36 pm
by Gaucho
nice

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:48 pm
by Lemon Berry Lobster

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:12 pm
by willeyeam
Are they back if this is their debut?

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:17 pm
by Gaucho
not them

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:22 pm
by MalkinIsMyHomeboy
who are they referring to as “backkkk [sic]” in this context? WBS in the playoffs? The NHL guys like Puusy? If the latter than I hope they’re not including “””Big Z””” in that because no one cares about him

Penguins Prospects Thread

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:34 pm
by mikey
I guess back in the playoffs, as they missed last year?

They haven't won a round since Sullivan was there haha