OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils

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Postby mikey » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:25 pm

I stopped reading at Voracek
I considered moving him down to possibly...

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Postby Gaucho » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:26 pm

Shut up, Mears. Just shut up.

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Postby Rx6687 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:27 pm

Pens are doing what they do every year at least 2x against New Jersey, which is completely mail it in and hand them one of the easiest shutouts imaginable.

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Postby mikey » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:27 pm

Kessel?!? I just saw. Jesus, Michael.
Yeah, that's still a pretty easy one...maybe next year Kessel falls off and Rust improves...but, all things being equal, we'd be a better team with another line driver...

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Postby Trip McNeely » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:28 pm

It would be nice for one year to actually not be completely **** by injuries. This team is a minor league team right now with one good line

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Postby nocera » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:28 pm

I stepped away to take the trash out. What the hell happened?

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Postby Gaucho » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:29 pm

Yeah, start by firing the trainers.

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Postby meow » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:29 pm

I stepped away to take the trash out. What the hell happened?
Trash

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Postby mikey » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:30 pm

Our minor leaguers got beat by their fringe NHLers...

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Postby Gaucho » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:30 pm

Damn you, GMJR.

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Postby skullman80 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:31 pm

Where's morozov when you need him?

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Postby shmenguin » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:31 pm


Well for starters your list in the other post is weird and gross. Nobody is taking Hoffman over Rust - even ignoring the gap in character.

But yeah, ok. I don’t mind the way you calculate #1. But then there would never be 31 1Rws or 1D. Which isn’t my favorite way to look at it. But on the other hand, we won the cup without a 1D in 17 even though Dumo was our 1D. But he’s not a 1D.

...I have a hankering to say 1D or 1C means something more sacred than 1RW though. But I think we’re good here.

Except your list. Your list is bad.
You assume a gap in character because of some weird **** his wife did...fine. As a hockey player - which was the question - he's definitely better than Rust. I mean, that kind of shot is just such an elite level trait that you can't pass it up in a 1 to 1 match. It's too much. I left guys like Bjorkstrand in the possibly category because he's real just a shooter...but Hoffman can help in transition, he can beat players 1 on 1, so that's the difference.

You can easily find players that do what Rust did his whole career accept the last, like, 70 games playing with HOFers...Tyler Kennedy was a 4th round pick, Tanev wasn't even drafted...you can find players whose best attribute is skating, there are factories that produce them. In fact, the league became so flush with them, that league quality actually dipped for a time last decade...

"Never"...? I don't know how you got there.

1 D and 1 C is definitely more valuable than 1 RW...wingers are the least valuable players out there, they do the least, they skate the least, they have the least area to cover...

If my list is bad, that means the majority of it is bad I presume...meaning, this group thinks Bryan Rust is, what, a top 15 RW in the NHL...? That's putting a lot of weight on one non-full season for me...and it's not even like it jives with the talent level...

I can't even imagine what names we're taking off the definite list to stick Bryan Rust, Bryan Rust in there...
Seems like you’re just measuring who does the best in drills at practice. I don’t know if he’s top 15 but Kessel was deserving of a healthy scratch for his last 2 playoff runs. Not sure that wicked shot means as much as you want it to when you are otherwise tanking every shift. This isn’t a Kessel point and I honesty have no idea where rust sits since I barely watch other teams. We all just need to say your list is bad and you should feel bad.

Character gap means Rust is a top top top character guy in the league and Hoffman is not that, btw.

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Postby Trip McNeely » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:37 pm

I honestly can’t be too mad about this. When a should be healthy scratch is centering your second line.....you got some injury issues

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Postby mikey » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:38 pm

It seems like you're commenting on a bunch of players you don't know...and then spinning it into me not knowing them...somehow...?

If all we got is two top-10 point producers at their position since 2019 being the list breaker for, again, Bryan Rust, of all players...then I don't know what to tell ya...watch some other teams, man...you're missing some great hockey if Rust is near the top of your list for best at his position haha

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Postby Gaucho » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:41 pm

I honestly can’t be too mad about this. When a should be healthy scratch is centering your second line.....you got some injury issues
Yeah, what I'm mad about is the lack of depth, which is not coming as a surprise. We knew about that going into the season.

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Postby shmenguin » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:41 pm

It seems like you're commenting on a bunch of players you don't know...and then spinning it into me not knowing them...somehow...?

If all we got is two top-10 point producers at their position since 2019 being the list breaker for, again, Bryan Rust, of all players...then I don't know what to tell ya...watch some other teams, man...you're missing some great hockey if Rust is near the top of your list for best at his position haha
I really did want to know if he was top 30. He still might not be.

But Kessel was dragging down his line for 4 months out of the year, which is not being a “driver”. And he’s so good, the return for him was a guy who’s just about out of the league.

So...I still don’t know how good rust is because of my ignorance. But because of ^ I know your list is not great. Or good.

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Postby Gaucho » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:42 pm

I have a feeling this will be going to OT.

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Postby willeyeam » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:43 pm

Pettersson is playing a better game tonight

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:43 pm

I have a feeling this will be going to OT.
pens vs devils or shmenguin vs mikey?

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Postby Emphatic Stupidity » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:44 pm

Half a chance now.

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Postby Gaucho » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:44 pm

I have a feeling this will be going to OT.

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Postby shmenguin » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:44 pm

I have a feeling this will be going to OT.
pens vs devils or shmenguin vs mikey?
Listen - everyone knows what that list is. I’m just doing the dirty work because nobody wants to look up 30 names and I’ll admit I don’t know squat.

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Postby Gaucho » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:44 pm

I have a feeling this will be going to OT.
pens vs devils or shmenguin vs mikey?
Both would be fine.

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Postby MalkinIsMyHomeboy » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:47 pm

though I agree, having Kessel in the “definitely” better category is questionable

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Postby mikey » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:47 pm

It seems like you're commenting on a bunch of players you don't know...and then spinning it into me not knowing them...somehow...?

If all we got is two top-10 point producers at their position since 2019 being the list breaker for, again, Bryan Rust, of all players...then I don't know what to tell ya...watch some other teams, man...you're missing some great hockey if Rust is near the top of your list for best at his position haha
I really did want to know if he was top 30. He still might not be.

But Kessel was dragging down his line for 4 months out of the year, which is not being a “driver”. And he’s so good, the return for him was a guy who’s just about out of the league.

So...I still don’t know how good rust is because of my ignorance. But because of ^ I know your list is not great. Or good.
Fine. Take Kessel off and call him not close to being a better player...that doesn't make a dent in the list. There's like 40 names on it probably...

Tough to say the list isn't good if you have to look up a single one of those names...I mean, these are impact players in the game...

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