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OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:46 pm
by RonnieFranchise
Oh look another crap period against a backup goalie.
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:59 pm
by mikey
are there 30 rw’s better than rust?
Probably.
BULLSHIT
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Definitely:
Pastrnak
Reinhart
Teravainen
Svechnikov
Nyquist
Mantha
Dadonov
Voracek
Konecny
Kucherov
Marner
Nylander
Oshie
Kessel
Lindholm
Kane
Rantanen
Radulov
Fiala
Arvidsson
Tarasenko
Hoffman
Boeser
Stone
Wheeler
Ehlers
Possibly:
Atkinson
Bjorkstrand
Gallagher
Anderson
Palmieri
Buchnevich
Wilson
Rakell
Garland
Burakovsky
Zuccarello
Meier
Smith
Tuch
Younger, but probably there already:
Necas
Kyrou/Thomas - whichever one ends up at RW
Pretty close to 30 definites, and if even a handful of the others are too - which some are - he's not...
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:00 pm
by Gaucho
Rust never sleeps.
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:01 pm
by mikey
1LW - 1C - 2RW
3LW - AHLer - 2/3RW
4LW - 4C - 4RW
13F - AHLer - 4RW
Wee-woo, wee-woo...
are there 30 rw’s better than rust?
Probably. But that's never the question that should be asked. It's about talent. There aren't 31 #1 d-men in the league...
What you are as a player doesn't change just because the ebb and flow of talent depth in the league...being the 7th best goalie in the world in 1965 in a hell of a lot different than the 7th best in 1981...the former could be a HOFer, the latter is replacement level...
This is...an answer.
So, you believe there are 31 #1 d-men in the league...? I'm not really sure how you're gonna come at this one...
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:04 pm
by meow
are there 30 rw’s better than rust?
Probably.
BULLSHIT
Definitely:
Pastrnak
Reinhart
Teravainen
Svechnikov
Nyquist
Mantha
Dadonov
Voracek
Konecny
Kucherov
Marner
Nylander
Oshie
Kessel
Lindholm
Kane
Rantanen
Radulov
Fiala
Arvidsson
Tarasenko
Hoffman
Boeser
Stone
Wheeler
Ehlers
Possibly:
Atkinson
Bjorkstrand
Gallagher
Anderson
Palmieri
Buchnevich
Wilson
Rakell
Garland
Burakovsky
Zuccarello
Meier
Smith
Tuch
Younger, but probably there already:
Necas
Kyrou/Thomas - whichever one ends up at RW
Pretty close to 30 definites, and if even a handful of the others are too - which some are - he's not...
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That’s a no from me dawg
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:04 pm
by meow
Who broke the fudging quote? I ain’t fixing it
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:06 pm
by mikey
1LW - 1C - 2RW
3LW - AHLer - 2/3RW
4LW - 4C - 4RW
13F - AHLer - 4RW
Wee-woo, wee-woo...
are there 30 rw’s better than rust?
Probably. But that's never the question that should be asked. It's about talent. There aren't 31 #1 d-men in the league...
What you are as a player doesn't change just because the ebb and flow of talent depth in the league...being the 7th best goalie in the world in 1965 in a hell of a lot different than the 7th best in 1981...the former could be a HOFer, the latter is replacement level...
In that case. Kapanen has more talent than Rust. Now what?
I mean, Stephane Da Costa has more talent than Rust too...but there's a level of functionality to it...does Rust have a greater positive impact on the game than Kapanen? I think so. Is Kapanen's best better than Rust's best? No question. But it's like the old Marc-Andre Fleury thing...Fleury may have one of the best tool sets in the league at any given moment, but it's about bringing that top end talent to the forefront consistently that matters...
I'm not sure there was a goalie in the league that could have done what Fleury in game 5 of the 2008 Stanley Cup Final. It may be the best goaltending performance I have ever seen...does that make him better than Henrik Lundqivst? Or Carey Price? No, those are always bringing a high level of play...
That's why McDavid is where he is and Evgeni Malkin is where he is...
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:06 pm
by mikey
Rodrigues missed the net on a wraparound...
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:09 pm
by Gaucho
Mario scores five different ways, Rodrigues misses five different ways.
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:09 pm
by skullman80
They ain't gonna score on this jabroni are they?
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:12 pm
by meecrofilm
I was told Rodrigues was going to score goals.
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:13 pm
by shmenguin
1LW - 1C - 2RW
3LW - AHLer - 2/3RW
4LW - 4C - 4RW
13F - AHLer - 4RW
Wee-woo, wee-woo...
are there 30 rw’s better than rust?
Probably. But that's never the question that should be asked. It's about talent. There aren't 31 #1 d-men in the league...
What you are as a player doesn't change just because the ebb and flow of talent depth in the league...being the 7th best goalie in the world in 1965 in a hell of a lot different than the 7th best in 1981...the former could be a HOFer, the latter is replacement level...
This is...an answer.
So, you believe there are 31 #1 d-men in the league...? I'm not really sure how you're gonna come at this one...
Well for starters your list in the other post is weird and gross. Nobody is taking Hoffman over Rust - even ignoring the gap in character.
But yeah, ok. I don’t mind the way you calculate #1. But then there would never be 31 1Rws or 1D. Which isn’t my favorite way to look at it. But on the other hand, we won the cup without a 1D in 17 even though Dumo was our 1D. But he’s not a 1D.
...I have a hankering to say 1D or 1C means something more sacred than 1RW though. But I think we’re good here.
Except your list. Your list is bad.
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:13 pm
by Gaucho
I was told Rodrigues was going to score goals.
Well he has two.
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:15 pm
by meow
I stopped reading at Voracek
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:15 pm
by shmenguin
Kessel?!? I just saw. Jesus, Michael.
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:18 pm
by willeyeam
Goodness
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:20 pm
by skullman80
Game over.
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:21 pm
by meow
Daaaaaamn
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:21 pm
by Gaucho
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:21 pm
by willeyeam
Welp
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:23 pm
by skullman80
Ugh.
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:23 pm
by Shyster
Cripes.
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:24 pm
by mikey
Well for starters your list in the other post is weird and gross. Nobody is taking Hoffman over Rust - even ignoring the gap in character.
But yeah, ok. I don’t mind the way you calculate #1. But then there would never be 31 1Rws or 1D. Which isn’t my favorite way to look at it. But on the other hand, we won the cup without a 1D in 17 even though Dumo was our 1D. But he’s not a 1D.
...I have a hankering to say 1D or 1C means something more sacred than 1RW though. But I think we’re good here.
Except your list. Your list is bad.
You assume a gap in character because of some weird **** his wife did...fine. As a hockey player - which was the question - he's definitely better than Rust. I mean, that kind of shot is just such an elite level trait that you can't pass it up in a 1 to 1 match. It's too much. I left guys like Bjorkstrand in the possibly category because he's real just a shooter...but Hoffman can help in transition, he can beat players 1 on 1, so that's the difference.
You can easily find players that do what Rust did his whole career accept the last, like, 70 games playing with HOFers...Tyler Kennedy was a 4th round pick, Tanev wasn't even drafted...you can find players whose best attribute is skating, there are factories that produce them. In fact, the league became so flush with them, that league quality actually dipped for a time last decade...
"Never"...? I don't know how you got there.
1 D and 1 C is definitely more valuable than 1 RW...wingers are the least valuable players out there, they do the least, they skate the least, they have the least area to cover...
If my list is bad, that means the majority of it is bad I presume...meaning, this group thinks Bryan Rust is, what, a top 15 RW in the NHL...? That's putting a lot of weight on one non-full season for me...and it's not even like it jives with the talent level...
I can't even imagine what names we're taking off the definite list to stick Bryan Rust, Bryan Rust in there...
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:24 pm
by willeyeam
Barf
OFFICIAL GDT Game 30: Pens @ Devils
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:24 pm
by skullman80
Unless Sid goes crazy there is no way this lineup is scoring 4 goals in basically half a game.