OFFICIAL GDT Game 22: Pens vs Flyers 03/04/2021

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Postby MR25 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:54 am

**** GMJR

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Postby shmenguin » Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:56 am

Friedman must have really felt part of the team as everyone ate their popcorn while he was getting scumbagged.

Soff matters. Realizing you can do whatever you want to this team and get a free pass really energizes low character teams like the caps and flyers after they come out flat.

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Postby mikey » Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:50 am

Any loss confirms everything, any win nothing.
Yeah, blowing a 3-0 lead after the anthem isn't great...but we're still the same win some, lose some team we were on Tuesday...this is life in the right lane, grandmas...win, loss, win, loss...

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:23 am

This team is average at best. Making the playoffs is not likely.
Right. Everyone is counting on beating up the sabres and devils all second half (16 games remain against those two teams) so I assume that the BOS PHI WSH NYI have played them a ton? Either way oens have overall more GP than teams above them in standings. It’s starting to look ugly.
Not I. I said we'd be fortunate to get .550 hockey out of that run...we're just not that good of a team...
I'm curious why you think we'd be fortunate to get 550 out of that run. We're at a 545 clip now without playing a game against Buffalo or NJ and with the litany of injuries to the D. I know we aren't cup favorites by any means, but I'd have to think the rest of the season should play out a bit better than what the results have been so far..

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Postby mikey » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:32 am

We. Are. Not. That. Good.

That's the only real reason...average teams don't just put away bad teams on the regular. That's what good teams do...

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Postby Trip McNeely » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:40 am

Friedman must have really felt part of the team as everyone ate their popcorn while he was getting scumbagged.

Soff matters. Realizing you can do whatever you want to this team and get a free pass really energizes low character teams like the caps and flyers after they come out flat.
Yea, I am far from someone who thinks we need a “tough” team. But last night was bad. That non-reaction to that incident was soff. The lack of any and all push back was soff.

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Postby King Colby » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:42 am

So set and over under on points percentage in those 16 games... current points percentage is .568

I could see something like 8-5-3 which is 19 points .593

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Postby King Colby » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:43 am

If you want to make the playoffs in this division you probably need at least 24 of those points if not more

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Postby skullman80 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:53 am

We. Are. Not. That. Good.

That's the only real reason...average teams don't just put away bad teams on the regular. That's what good teams do...
Yeah this is where I'm at. Last night was just what an average team does...blows leads.

It's not just one game.. it's this season, and last season etc... this team is average now with aging stars.

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Postby King Colby » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:57 am

Honestly, and this may sound dumb, but I hope they fall far enough back in the standings that they seriously consider being a bit of a seller. The ceiling for this team is backing in to the playoffs and losing in the first round. Assets are bleak. Would love to see them get a premium for Rust, get a 3rd or a 4th out of Ceci, etc.

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:13 pm

We're 8-4 against the top two teams in the division at the moment. I'm not writing them off yet

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Postby MR25 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:17 pm

Not sure how smart it would be to be a seller, when you don't have possession of a 1st round pick.

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Postby King Colby » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:19 pm

Asset shortage, selling replenishes assets, buying can't happen without assets...?

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Postby MR25 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:22 pm

Right but like... if you sell, you're going to miss the playoffs AND have nothing to show for it in the form of a potential lottery pick because your previous GM was an idiot.

It's kind of a dammed if you do, damned if you don't situation.

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:23 pm

Not sure how smart it would be to be a seller, when you don't have possession of a 1st round pick.
That's kinda how you get the 1st round pick...

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:24 pm

Weenie is that you?

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Postby King Colby » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:25 pm

We're 8-4 against the top two teams in the division at the moment. I'm not writing them off yet
Series points are 8-6 vs NYI and 8-7 vs WSH

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Postby MR25 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:43 pm

Not sure how smart it would be to be a seller, when you don't have possession of a 1st round pick.
That's kinda how you get the 1st round pick...

Who would the Penguins give up to get a first though? And why would a non-playoff team trade their first for a (example) Bryan Rust?

Honestly I just don't like the position GMJR put us in.

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Postby mikey » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:44 pm

Yeah, it's not like Philly was overloaded with draft picks when he took over there...he went out and got them...

I don't think we're buyers, even if we're in a playoff spot around that time...I think if we make it, it'll just be a "let's see what you can do with what you got" situation...now, if we're seriously in-in, then sure, you might see us add a piece...

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Postby mikey » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:45 pm

Don't limit your own market to "lottery" picks...the difference between picking 15th and 19th is usually nothing...

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Postby King Colby » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:52 pm

Yeah, it's not like Philly was overloaded with draft picks when he took over there...he went out and got them...

I don't think we're buyers, even if we're in a playoff spot around that time...I think if we make it, it'll just be a "let's see what you can do with what you got" situation...now, if we're seriously in-in, then sure, you might see us add a piece...
Agreed. They won't buy. Theres nothing to buy with. I doubt they deal rust now but would be surprised if they didn't before the draft.

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Postby Trip McNeely » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:25 pm

The only way I think we should be on the “buyer” side of thing is if it’s a hockey trade not involving picks or prospects

Maybe a Pettersson for a 4th line center type of trade. We are overloaded on the left side of the ice on defense. Make a trade from a position of strength to a position of weakness

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Postby willeyeam » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:28 pm

The only way I think we should be on the “buyer” side of thing is if it’s a hockey trade not involving picks or prospects

Maybe a Pettersson for a 4th line center type of trade. We are overloaded on the left side of the ice on defense. Make a trade from a position of strength to a position of weakness
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I'm with this/what mikey said. Basically let's see what happens with what we got. Obviously if the next few weeks are egregiously bad, then sell.. but otherwise I don't really want to see anything drastic either way.

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Postby The U » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:29 pm

9 regulation wins in their last 37 regular season games.

The days of expecting us to win every night and being surprised when we don’t should be long gone.

Maybe we aren’t all the way into the Rico Fata, Ramzi Abid, Dick Tarnstrom era of lowered expectations but in some ways this is much more frustrating.

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Postby Gaucho » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:31 pm

We're 8-4 against the top two teams in the division at the moment. I'm not writing them off yet
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