Penguins sign D Jack Johnson: 5 yrs, $16.25 mil ($3.25 AAV)

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Postby mikey » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:04 pm

No surprise, but it deserves a thread.

My previously posted scouting report on him...tough to swallow the notion of Letang, JMFJ and Oleksiak on the same blueline...

Jack Johnson (LD/RD) - A power forward playing defense, Johnson is an adventurous player even as a veteran. Very mobile in all directions with great agility, terrific lateral skating and cross-overs. He looks like a top-end athlete on the ice. He has good size and plays the game with physicality, sometimes even bullying players near his net. Generally, he is set up in a lower, crouched position and is ready to explode in any direction - whether that be quick-transition skating or to make a big hit up near the blueline. Johnson always supports the rush by widening out to the weak side usually even or ahead of the puck plane. He does this whether it is the proper time for it or not, with little regard to the other potential passing lanes in his area. Off of retrievals, Johnson snaps hard outlet passes routinely. He may have one of the snappiest breakout passes in the league in fact. Though sometimes that backfires - where he cuts it a little too fine up the middle and it leads to a turnover, or he ices it or he takes so long to find space for himself to unleash the pass that he runs himself right into trouble. He will throw his body into anything, anywhere, at any time. This leads to some questionable pinches to keep offensive plays alive, but with his first step quickness, he's a good bet to win a lot of 50/50 pucks. Johnson can hammer it from distance, but he's more of a threat to score from joining the rush or coming late down the middle with a wrist shot. He has the hands to be a factor in terms of carrying the puck but he is an over-handler in the NZ and when crossing the attack line, which creates turnovers. From a fundamental perspective, his defense is abysmal. He may be one of the worst defensive players in terms of regular rearguards in the whole league. Off the rush, he gets sucked out wide a ton and gives up the dot line, gives up the interior of the rink, sometimes he gets sucked out so high that he's the last man back into the play. When he is near the proper lane to defend, he over-extends his stick to the limits of his reach - not only painting a clear picture of his zone of control for his opponent but also leaving him out of position in most cases. Against sustained attacks he either gets pushed back way too deep and screens his goalie (if not bumps him) or he just starts chasing pucks around with no regard for positional integrity. He has no qualms going behind the net if another d-man is back there, he will go in the corner and stay there and get beat back to his net...he changes sides without any communication with his partner and is sometimes right on top of him as a result until his partner adjusts...it is tough to find a more aloof defenseman in the league on the ice as much as him. These are the same flaws he had at 17, with such limited hockey sense, there was little hope for growth in this area. Just a fundamental trainwreck and it's way too late to fix it. Tough player to judge because his physical traits and offensive skill set (minus his brain) are very much top-four caliber, his defensive play could not be reasonably construed as NHL capable.

Role: Mobile offensive defenseman who requires the “rhythm” of playing a lot of minutes but one who is tough to shelter for too long…tough to slot.

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Postby Lelldorin » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:14 pm

GG

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Postby Jim » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:14 pm

My biggest, well, only really, question about Johnson is how will he fit with Sullivan. We have seen Sullivan bench solid defensive play. We have seen Sullivan bench solid physical play. We have seen Sullivan give ice time to players that can barely find their butt with both hands and a map.

I do not expect Johnson to become a star. I do not expect Johnson to fail. I expect Johnson to be a 5/6 defenseman. But I do wonder how he will be used.

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Postby Pavel Bure » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:15 pm

*dry heave*

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Postby Jim » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:18 pm

Still no mention on pp.com, their twitter for Facebook.

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:27 pm

Rutherford has a new conference scheduled for 1:30, so I assume that it'll be announced shortly.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:32 pm

https://twitter.com/penguins/status/1013474435096088576
The Penguins have signed defenseman Jack Johnson to a five-year contract for an average annual value of $3.25 million. Welcome to the team!

Full details: https://pens.pe/2lIZeJ8

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:49 pm

Rutherford said Sullivan and Gonchar did an extensive scout of Johnson on tapes and loved what they saw from his game last year. "I know why he was benched and it wasn't his play." -SK

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Postby skullman80 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:52 pm

Let's hope they are right.

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Postby meow » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:53 pm

Because Torts is an asshat?

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:55 pm

That's not really a question.

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Postby meow » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:07 pm

Because Torts is an asshat.

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:08 pm

There you go.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:57 pm

Wonder what jersey number he's going to take now that 7 is taken.

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Postby mikey » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:59 pm

He wore 3 at U of M, also not available...

77?

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:00 pm

No to 77.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:02 pm

He wore 3 at U of M, also not available...

77?
Easy, trade Maatta.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:03 pm

I hope he wears #7 and Cullen **** off.

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Postby NTP66 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:03 pm

He wore 3 at U of M, also not available...

77?
Easy, trade Maatta.
*checks to make sure this isn't /r/penguins*

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Postby Waffles » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:05 pm

He wore 3 at U of M, also not available...

77?
Easy, trade Maatta.
*checks to make sure this isn't /r/penguins*
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Postby Waffles » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:05 pm

I like the signing. He's a reclamation project and yeah he's expensive, but his contract isn't going to prevent the team from making another run this year if he's adequate or better.

We're still in "the window," but it's the last year, maybe there's one more after this but that's only if Guentzel keeps developing and who the hell knows what else is going to go wrong regarding injuries. If we're still in "go for it" mode, then this is a signing I like a lot.

Rutherford takes risks and I don't think he makes a deal without all the people who's opinions we should trust over our own being on board with it.

I trust Sullivan, Gonchar, Crosby, Rutherford and co. infinitely more than myself on this subject.

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Postby shafnutz05 » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:26 pm

Well, let's pull one more defenseman out of the dumpster and turn around his game.

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Postby NailedPenguin » Sun Jul 01, 2018 8:53 pm

Torts is already losing his mind. He just heard Penguins and probably started twitching

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Postby Ad@m » Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:26 pm

:lol: Torts will have November 24 circled on his calendar.
Columbus Blue Jackets coach John Tortorella unleashed on recently departed defenseman Jack Johnson for comments Johnson made at his introductory news conference in Pittsburgh.

Johnson, who signed a five-year, $16.25 million deal with the Penguins, said Sunday, "I've been looking to be in a winning culture."

Reached by The Athletic for reaction to Johnson's apparent slight, Tortorella said, "All I know is this organization, from the lawyers, the front office, J.D. [John Davidson], the managers, the coaches, players ... has done nothing but try to help Jack. And for him to backhand slap us like this is utter bulls---, and he should know better.

"No one wishes anything bad to happen to him and his family. We wish him the best. But for him to put it the way he put it today is bulls---. And to have a general manager question our decision-making from three hours away, he must be a f---ing magician."


Tortorella's latter comment referenced Penguins GM Jim Rutherford, who said of Johnson, "I don't think he had a bad year. He was a healthy scratch at the end of the season. I know the reason why. It wasn't because of how he was playing."

Blue Jackets GM Jarmo Kekalainen, according to The Athletic, said he would be calling Rutherford for an explanation of that comment.

"The thing that pisses me off the most is a general manager in this league questioning and talking about our decision-making," Tortorella said.

"Jack and I had an open, honest conversation all through this. Jack and I have known one another forever, and I love the guy. There's no agenda here. You think that's an easy decision for me, after what Jack Johnson has been in this league and what he is?

"But that can't get in my way as far as making the right decisions for this hockey club, and that's all we do, so Rutherford should shut the f--- up."


Johnson, 31, a 12-year veteran who had three goals and eight assists in 77 games last season in Columbus, later told The Athletic that his comment was not meant to criticize his former club.

Johnson said he misspoke at his news conference and he never meant to disparage the Blue Jackets' organization.

"I didn't mean it in any way, shape or form as a backhand towards Columbus," Johnson said. "Pittsburgh's won two [Stanley] Cups in the last three years, and there's a winning culture there. I didn't mean it in any way to insult the Blue Jackets at all."

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Postby MrKennethTKangaroo » Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:19 am

Torts is a normal human being

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