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Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:31 pm
by shmenguin
I'm starting to get the impression that Letang's ability to be effective is going to mirror Troy Polamalu. In short, when your game is built on speed and the ability to make up for mistakes, you never truly learn how to eliminate the mistakes from your game. Then, one day, you're not fast/quick enough to make up for your mistakes anymore...and you don't look very good.
Here's hoping he can find some Rod Woodson in there somewhere.
yep. though the hail mary here is that he couldn't work out last year because of the injury/surgery, and even his summer was probably heavily compromised. so if he can get into his offseason freak routine...maybe there's hope.
but yeah...the physical stuff was easy, so he could devote more energy to the mental part. well, now nothing's easy, and he has to divide attention. and we'd have more luck getting him to divide an atom.
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:34 pm
by mikey
I'd try to cash out on Letang...see what another 50-point, RHS d-man is worth on the market...hurts me to say it, but...
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:38 pm
by shmenguin
Who else is a RHS and overpaid? Maybe we pull a disappointment swap. We have better infrastructure to reclaim this profile than the other guys.
...which means Letang probably is really f’d. He can’t pull it together on THIS team?!? The team where everyone pulls it together?
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:38 pm
by mikey
Justin Faulk...?
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:42 pm
by Lemon Berry Lobster
The thing to me that says Letang will never learn is look how many other defensemen that have defensive concerns come here and are at the least serviceable. Trade Letang for stuffs, sign Carlson.
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:42 pm
by Dickie Dunn
I'm starting to get the impression that Letang's ability to be effective is going to mirror Troy Polamalu. In short, when your game is built on speed and the ability to make up for mistakes, you never truly learn how to eliminate the mistakes from your game. Then, one day, you're not fast/quick enough to make up for your mistakes anymore...and you don't look very good.
Here's hoping he can find some Rod Woodson in there somewhere.
You want to move Letang to safety?
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:45 pm
by Dickie Dunn
Justin Faulk...?
What are the odds that Carolina is on Letang's list of 18 teams?
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:46 pm
by RonnieFranchise
They lost 4 of the 6 home games this post seasons. That's awful any way you cut it.
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:54 pm
by shmenguin
Justin Faulk...?
What are the odds that Carolina is on Letang's list of 18 teams?
I'd say it's fairly likely Carolina is on his no trade list. I can't think of 10+ teams less palatable. I mean...I can, but not with his assumed standards.
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:55 pm
by mikey
Justin Faulk...?
What are the odds that Carolina is on Letang's list of 18 teams?
18 is a lot of teams...so I guess 60%. He's got Jordan Staal there...Don Waddell was a scout in Pittsburgh, Mike Bales was a coach here...two long-time d-men to work there with in Steve Smith and Glen Wesley....I'm not sure there's any other meaningful connection...but there's some familiarity...
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:42 pm
by dodint
*crosses fingers for a shin pad allergy*
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:22 pm
by slappybrown
Hot take: Letang will be good again in 18-19.
Also **** Jason Mackey in the ear
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:38 pm
by dodint
You think he will get smarter or younger?
Each is equally probable.
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:20 pm
by slappybrown
I think that the last year plus was the outlier compared to his entire body of work and to the extent that he is required to adapt his game as he ages, that will happen through a combination of his own recognizance and effective coaching
The guy was one of the top 5 dmen in the league from 2010-2015 (seems like this has been entirely forgotten on this board). I don't think that version of Letang is gone forever, but I suppose I'm an optimist. Even when the guy was a Norris finalist people were unhappy with him which is why I've avoided engaging in this debate; he's extremely polarizing and people made their minds up years ago about him and it's not really subject to change.
Imo
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:25 pm
by slappybrown
Mods: thank you.
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:11 pm
by dodint
*giggle*
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 1:48 am
by Rylan
So...the shorter list would be the players that deserve kudos. Crosby, Guentzel...
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:30 am
by NTP66
Add Hornqvist and Dumoulin to that list.
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 6:33 am
by Lemon Berry Lobster
Maatta and Ruhwedel played pretty well too.
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:03 am
by shafnutz05
Who else is a RHS and overpaid? Maybe we pull a disappointment swap. We have better infrastructure to reclaim this profile than the other guys.
...which means Letang probably is really f’d. He can’t pull it together on THIS team?!? The team where everyone pulls it together?
This is where I'm at. We seem to be good at the reclamation projects.
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:55 am
by Morkle
I'm fine with keeping Letang. I think I'm not fine with playing him 20+ minutes a night, because "that's how he gets going."
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 9:01 am
by darkstar57
Not sure if i saw it on here anywhere or its been made official but Team Russia tweeted Malkin would not be joining them because of a knee injury
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 9:08 am
by mikey
I'm fine with keeping Letang. I think I'm not fine with playing him 20+ minutes a night, because "that's how he gets going."
Then trade him. That's a rhythm player (which is a specific subset of a player trait) if I ever saw one...see: Keith Yandle's usage in New York.
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 9:12 am
by Beveridge
*crosses fingers for a shin pad allergy*
Just now seeing this. Busted out laughing.
Official Recriminations Thread
Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 9:17 am
by Morkle
I'm fine with keeping Letang. I think I'm not fine with playing him 20+ minutes a night, because "that's how he gets going."
Then trade him. That's a rhythm player (which is a specific subset of a player trait) if I ever saw one...see: Keith Yandle's usage in New York.
Then, if it's that big of a deal that he needs to get in a rhythm but will still always make mistakes, then yes, trade him.