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Postby mikey » Wed May 09, 2018 9:30 am

Yeah, you trade him now while he still probably has big value. If you're gonna try to neuter his game, you're gonna hurt his value...if you're gonna try to slip him out there for 17:30 a game that doesn't include PP1 time, you're gonna hurt his value. So let's just move on while the gettin' is good...

Will we? I highly doubt it. Should we? I believe so.

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Postby Waffles » Wed May 09, 2018 9:31 am

I think he's earned until at least the december break to fix his game.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed May 09, 2018 9:32 am

It's worth noting that he has a modified NTC/NMC (18 teams he can be traded to).

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Postby meow » Wed May 09, 2018 9:33 am

I think he's earned until at least the december break to fix his game.
This is a move that if made, is made at the draft.

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Postby mikey » Wed May 09, 2018 9:40 am

The NTC is not really an obstacle...half the league is on it.

And yes, this move is now or never. You have the whole marketplace available...two shots...before the draft and immediately after when a team misses out on one of those big time d-men in this draft...

After that, he's a Penguin for life or he ends as being significantly discounted later...

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Wed May 09, 2018 9:45 am

Yeah now is the time to trade Letang if it ever happens. He played 79 games this year and one of his big issues was staying healthy. 4 years at 7.25 per isn't going to kill a team. He's already been moved to PP2, there are GMs dumb enough to take him on even with his defensive short comings.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed May 09, 2018 9:50 am

Source of the post The NTC is not really an obstacle...half the league is on it.
I'm nitpicking here, but the fact that he has an NTC is still an obstacle since it doesn't include all teams. There's a very good chance that a team willing to trade for him [for a decent return] is not on his list.

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Postby mikey » Wed May 09, 2018 9:55 am

Yeah and I'm carelessly glancing over it. Knowing what I know about Letang, I think if we asked him to waive it, he'd waive it. Particularly to stay in the east to give us the business every chance he got. I don't think it will prove to be an obstacle.

Then again, I don't think we ever get to that point in real life anyhow...

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Postby dodint » Wed May 09, 2018 9:55 am

Is it 18 teams he'll allow a trade to, or 18 teams he won't?

If it's the former that only excludes 12 teams. I like those chances.

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Wed May 09, 2018 9:58 am

Is it 18 teams he'll allow a trade to, or 18 teams he won't?

If it's the former that only excludes 12 teams. I like those chances.
Former.

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Postby dodint » Wed May 09, 2018 9:59 am

Thanks!

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Postby meow » Wed May 09, 2018 10:00 am

He will go to 18 teams
He will not go to 13 teams

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Postby shmenguin » Wed May 09, 2018 10:03 am

I bet that, if approached, he would expand that list to 25 or so.

Edmonton, Buffalo and Phoenix are always non-starters (and Ottawa now) but it’s hard to find that many pariahs anymore. If he’s ok with Canada, Winnipeg and Calgary aren’t so bad now. The Panthers are in a wasteland...but no state income tax. I think he would be amenable to a lot more teams than he would have at the time of the signing.

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Postby Troy Loney » Wed May 09, 2018 10:03 am

PG staff wants to trade Kessel, fan base wants to trade Letang.

Will be interesting if either are right.

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Postby meow » Wed May 09, 2018 10:05 am

I bet that, if approached, he would expand that list to 25 or so.

Edmonton, Buffalo and Phoenix are always non-starters (and Ottawa now) but it’s hard to find that many pariahs anymore. If he’s ok with Canada, Winnipeg and Calgary aren’t so bad now. The Panthers are in a wasteland...but no state income tax. I think he would be amenable to a lot more teams than he would have at the time of the signing.
I think Florida would be in on him big time.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Wed May 09, 2018 10:05 am

I don't think is has been mentioned but Hunwick needs to go. 2.25 to ride the pine.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed May 09, 2018 10:17 am

I bet that, if approached, he would expand that list to 25 or so.

Edmonton, Buffalo and Phoenix are always non-starters (and Ottawa now) but it’s hard to find that many pariahs anymore. If he’s ok with Canada, Winnipeg and Calgary aren’t so bad now. The Panthers are in a wasteland...but no state income tax. I think he would be amenable to a lot more teams than he would have at the time of the signing.
I think Florida would be in on him big time.
There are obviously a few forwards I would gladly take for Letang, but I don't think there's any way around trading him for another defenseman. And I don't see anyone on Florida's roster that I'd want who isn't named OEL.

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Postby dodint » Wed May 09, 2018 10:18 am

He will go to 18 teams
He will not go to 13 teams
He's already on 1 team, hence the 12 number used prior.

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Postby shmenguin » Wed May 09, 2018 10:19 am

I bet that, if approached, he would expand that list to 25 or so.

Edmonton, Buffalo and Phoenix are always non-starters (and Ottawa now) but it’s hard to find that many pariahs anymore. If he’s ok with Canada, Winnipeg and Calgary aren’t so bad now. The Panthers are in a wasteland...but no state income tax. I think he would be amenable to a lot more teams than he would have at the time of the signing.
I think Florida would be in on him big time.
There are obviously a few forwards I would gladly take for Letang, but I don't think there's any way around trading him for another defenseman. And I don't see anyone on Florida's roster that I'd want who isn't named OEL.
Trade him for a value, then. Flip some forwards later on. We need a replacement in about 10 months. Not in October.

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Postby NTP66 » Wed May 09, 2018 10:20 am

Maybe Letang will accidentally waive his NTC, mimicking his defensive zone coverage.

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Postby meow » Wed May 09, 2018 10:40 am

He will go to 18 teams
He will not go to 13 teams
He's already on 1 team, hence the 12 number used prior.
Oh. Duh.

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Postby mikey » Wed May 09, 2018 10:41 am

I bet that, if approached, he would expand that list to 25 or so.

Edmonton, Buffalo and Phoenix are always non-starters (and Ottawa now) but it’s hard to find that many pariahs anymore. If he’s ok with Canada, Winnipeg and Calgary aren’t so bad now. The Panthers are in a wasteland...but no state income tax. I think he would be amenable to a lot more teams than he would have at the time of the signing.
I think Florida would be in on him big time.
There are obviously a few forwards I would gladly take for Letang, but I don't think there's any way around trading him for another defenseman. And I don't see anyone on Florida's roster that I'd want who isn't named OEL.
I'd check that roster again... :P

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Postby Troy Loney » Wed May 09, 2018 10:44 am

Does he mean Eckblad?

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Postby Dickie Dunn » Wed May 09, 2018 10:44 am

Letang and Sheary to Florida for Ekblad and Trocheck. 99.9% sure that’s equal value.

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Postby Gaucho » Wed May 09, 2018 10:44 am

No, we're not getting Ekblad.

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