GDT #54 Pens @ Devils, 07:00 ET

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:56 pm

Yea playing Kuhn 12 minutes to ZAR's 6 while Sprong stays in WBS doesn't make a damn bit of sense. Kuhn doesn't belong anywhere but the 4th line. Fully expect to be shut out on Tuesday.

Postby **Jim** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:35 pm

After the Caps game Sullivan was asked about the PP. He straight out said that they don't coach the PP, they let the players do what they want. The PP was the only big feather in the coaching cap. Considering all of the questionable coaching decisions that are apparent, and considering that they biggest plus is not a coaching thing at all... Maybe the Pens are winning in spite of the coaching as opposed to because of it.

Postby **Gaucho** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:48 pm

Postby **nocera** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:04 pm

After the Caps game Sullivan was asked about the PP. He straight out said that they don't coach the PP, they let the players do what they want. The PP was the only big feather in the coaching cap. Considering all of the questionable coaching decisions that are apparent, and considering that they biggest plus is not a coaching thing at all... Maybe the Pens are winning in spite of the coaching as opposed to because of it.

Or it takes a really good coach to recognize that his players have the ability to run their own powerplay and they’re better off doing that than trying to force a bunch of creative players to conform to a coach’s system. Sullivan for Jack Adams.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:48 pm

Heh, he says that, but they coach it. How hands on they are, you can talk about that...I have fashioned myself as a power play professor everywhere I go. I let my players have input, I let them improvise...skill is organic. But I am still the architect at the end of the day, it's a team effort to erect the building though...he is giving players credit in the media/being humble at a time where things are going well...

Postby **meow** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:11 pm

Jim went full Jim. Don’t ever go full Jim.

Postby **Jim** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:33 am

Maybe the Pens are winning in spite of the coaching as opposed to because of it.

If there was an award for most over-rated coach, Sullivan would potentially win that. Maybe the "Adam's Jack Award" where you wing for not having jack to do with your team winning.

Postby **Jim** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:34 am

Jim went full Jim. Don’t ever go full Jim.

Very few people have seen full Jim. It is a glorious thing. Angels sing and you would weep at the splendor.

Postby **MR25** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:47 am

That is worse than my Reaves take IMO

Postby **meow** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:17 am

Maybe the Pens are winning in spite of the coaching as opposed to because of it.

If there was an award for most over-rated coach, Sullivan would potentially win that. Maybe the "Adam's Jack Award" where you wing for not having jack to do with your team winning.

I mean, Sullivan is not an X and O guy. Him deflecting the pp success back to the players is a fuel for their confidence on it. And what is there to coach on it? The top unit has almost the perfect player at each position (in Schultz would be the high guy God dammit).

Postby **Jim** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:37 am

Maybe the Pens are winning in spite of the coaching as opposed to because of it.

If there was an award for most over-rated coach, Sullivan would potentially win that. Maybe the "Adam's Jack Award" where you wing for not having jack to do with your team winning.
I mean, Sullivan is not an X and O guy. Him deflecting the pp success back to the players is a fuel for their confidence on it. And what is there to coach on it? The top unit has almost the perfect player at each position (in Schultz would be the high guy God dammit).

The Schultz/Letang thing is probably the only part of the PP that can be related back to the coach... so... -1

Postby **Jim** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:38 am

That is worse than my Reaves take IMO

There aren't even things said on lgp that are worse than your Reaves take.

Postby **MR25** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:42 am

I'm gonna call shenanigans on that one

Postby **MR25** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:42 am

Exhibit A

After the Caps game Sullivan was asked about the PP. He straight out said that they don't coach the PP, they let the players do what they want. The PP was the only big feather in the coaching cap. Considering all of the questionable coaching decisions that are apparent, and considering that they biggest plus is not a coaching thing at all... Maybe the Pens are winning in spite of the coaching as opposed to because of it.

Postby **Jim** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:45 am

I'm gonna call shenanigans on that one

The restaurant with all the stuff on the walls?

Postby **Jim** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:53 am

Exhibit A

After the Caps game Sullivan was asked about the PP. He straight out said that they don't coach the PP, they let the players do what they want. The PP was the only big feather in the coaching cap. Considering all of the questionable coaching decisions that are apparent, and considering that they biggest plus is not a coaching thing at all... Maybe the Pens are winning in spite of the coaching as opposed to because of it.

Yer so cool.

I am quickly souring on the Pens coaching. Sullivan makes a lot of questionable decisions. The #1 good thing that you could point to for the coaching he said that they aren't really responsible for. He is responsible for keeping Letang on the #1 unit though, which if anything means that the coaching is holding the PP back.

There are more and more "What the..." situations when it comes to this team's coaching than "That's a good idea" times. (In game... I don't know about practice)

Postby **Lemon Berry Lobster** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:57 am

Souring on the guy that just coached the Pens to back to back cups. Makes sense.

Postby **nocera** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:00 am

Souring on the guy that just coached the Pens to back to back cups. Makes sense.

Oh come on, he only has a 100% success rate for winning Stanley Cups. He's clearly garbage.

Postby **Silentom** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:01 am

It's getting weird in here.

Postby **Gaucho** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:03 am

Souring on the guy that just coached the Pens to back to back cups. Makes sense.

Especially when your favorite pastime is mocking armchair GMs over at LGP.

Postby **dodint** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:12 am

Has 5AF peaked?

Postby **meow** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:15 am

There are more and more "What the..." situations when it comes to this team's coaching than "That's a good idea" times. (In game... I don't know about practice)

Like?

Postby **Jim** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:40 pm

Souring on the guy that just coached the Pens to back to back cups. Makes sense.
Especially when your favorite pastime is mocking armchair GMs over at LGP.

No, my favorite pastime is mocking moron GMs. Realistic armchair GMs get discussion. Giving up the moon or guys that are faultering, that is different. Wanting other team's 1C to play 4C for the Pens, that's different. I don't mock here because opinions tend to be a little better here. Lately there has been a counter swing, but you'll get those from time to time.

Mostly I just need to stay out of GDTs. That is where I tend to go overboard.

Postby **Jim** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:44 pm

There are more and more "What the..." situations when it comes to this team's coaching than "That's a good idea" times. (In game... I don't know about practice)
Like?

Not sure what the confusion is... ice time, line combos, scratches, non-scratches... you know... coach stuff.

Postby **meow** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:57 pm

There are more and more "What the..." situations when it comes to this team's coaching than "That's a good idea" times. (In game... I don't know about practice)
Like?

Not sure what the confusion is... ice time, line combos, scratches, non-scratches... you know... coach stuff.

We can’t have a discussion here, Jim, if you don’t come to the table with some examples.