Antti Niemi on waivers today

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:17 pm

... except that Ward makes $3.3M

You're right. They should eat some salary and send Jordan Staal back too...get the band back together...

Postby **meow** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:18 pm

... except that Ward makes $3.3M
They'll just write it off
Do you even know what a write off is?

No, but they do. And they're the ones writing it off

Postby **Morkle** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:18 pm

... except that Ward makes $3.3M
They'll just write it off
Do you even know what a write off is?

It's about the same as Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy. Right?

Postby **meow** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:21 pm

Is meow ready for some spot duty? Couldn't be worse than Niemi had been.
meow hurt his back lifting up a 3 year old this weekend...
OK Dustin Penner.

Hey. I haven't hurt myself eating breakfast

Yet

Postby **Jim** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:02 pm

The posts on this board are getting dumber than those on lgp... and if people are just trying to be funny, then they are failing at that as well.

Postby **dodint** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:14 pm

I really need to get to my game.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:19 pm

I don't think anyone but meow and I posed anything remotely hockey related in this thread...so are you referring to that or to the Seinfeld reference...?

Postby **count2infinity** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:21 pm

Good riddance. All you need to be a back up is not let in 5+ goals every start.

Postby **NTP66** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:25 pm

7.5 GPG, to be precise.

Postby **BigMck** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:04 pm

That was fast. Shat the bed 1 game (or 7 goals) too much. He seems much older than 34. Is there a 'prime' age for a goalie before the wheels completely fall off?

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:28 pm

Well, Niemi was never really good to begin with...so prime is debatable...

It's tough because there are no really reliable goalie stats out there...26 seems to be the magic age where big goalies get it...and considering it's a big goalies league now, 26 to 30 makes sense as a prime...meow might have different thoughts, but just ignore them, he's a goalie who can't even lift up three year olds...

Postby **meow** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:33 pm

Well, Niemi was never really good to begin with...so prime is debatable...

It's tough because there are no really reliable goalie stats out there...26 seems to be the magic age where big goalies get it...and considering it's a big goalies league now, 26 to 30 makes sense as a prime...meow might have different thoughts, but just ignore them, he's a goalie who can't even lift up three year olds...

First of all, I was able to lift him. I used my groin and back in an awkward jerky motion like you are suppose to.

Second of all, goalie prime (like the rest of the league) is trending younger and younger. I'd say maybe 24-27 is prime now.

Postby **DigitalGypsy66** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:34 pm

Brodouche and Hasek were freaks, but I would say elite goalies maintain their level of play until their mid-30s.

Luongo and Ryan MIller are 38 and 37 respectively. Are they elite? Hmmm.

Postby **count2infinity** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:35 pm

Nothing between 24 and 27 is prime. Mikey is correct as 29 is certainly prime.

Postby **Silentom** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:39 pm

Nerd.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:53 pm

Miller was elite for a noteworthy length of time? I don't recall that. I guess coming out of the lockout on that stacked Buffalo team he was good, I know he had a Vezina season against a bunch of nobodies...but I'm not sure he was ever elite...and he hasn't been at all relevant and mostly not useful since that Vezina/Olympic season...

I do think the prime age is trending younger, particularly for forwards...I still think the bigger goalies take a little while longer...I'd have to break it down goalie by goalie and see if any correlation comes around...but it would have to be mostly from memory, as most goalie stats are not telling of ability (except for Niemi's this year...he has a negative save pct., that's about right)...smaller goalies, like Jaroslav Halak, meow is probably right on...I'd guess that his best was right around 24-27, some of those Montreal years were so good that it nearly ousted Carey Price of all things...

Postby **Willie Kool** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:56 pm

29 is certainly prime.

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:00 pm

Niemi is only 34? He looks like a drunk 50 year old stumbling around the crease.

Postby **NTP66** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:16 pm

Is there a drunk 50 year old available to backup Murray? Asking for a friend.

Postby **meow** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:49 pm

Looking at some ages here, 28 seems to be the money shot with goalie age now

Postby **BigMck** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:24 pm

The LA Kings held open tryouts a month ago for an emergency back up goalie. I had a buddy go and try but he reported back that he was not in any type of shape to play at a high level and he never made it past warm up drills. He also said that a beer league slapshot and professional league slapshot leave very different shades of color to any type of bruising.

Postby **Tico Rick** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:19 pm

I thought someone posted some fancy stats a year or so ago saying basically that goalies reach their peak at age 27, and while their decline may be gradual or sudden, they almost never post better numbers after age 27.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:31 pm

At a glance, that seems faulty...

Postby **shafnutz05** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:27 pm

I would reckon that the "bell curve" in terms of productivity is a bit flatter than it is for forwards, and about the same as it is for defensemen.

Postby **Pavel Bure** » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:09 pm

The LA Kings held open tryouts a month ago for an emergency back up goalie. I had a buddy go and try but he reported back that he was not in any type of shape to play at a high level and he never made it past warm up drills. He also said that a beer league slapshot and professional league slapshot leave very different shades of color to any type of bruising.

I can confirm the puck burn anecdote above. My roommate in college was the team goalie. He had the priveledge of being able to practice with the Nailers a couple times and showed me his pads.

Just the difference from college players to ECHL guys was noticeable in a big way. I can only imagine what the difference up to the NHL is like.