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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:04 pm

Jake is only good because Sid makes him good, or at least that's what the internet says.

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Postby willeyeam » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:23 pm

Jake is only good because Sid makes him good, or at least that's what the internet says.
That was sorta my opinion his first year or so. Obviously not now. He's incredible. And to me, nothing really jumps out as physically remarkable watching him, he just produces. It's great

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Postby mikey » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:49 pm

Just for informational purposes (as Guentzel is a standalone talent, very smart, efficient, plus shot, surprising compete for a player of his type):

Guentzel has 141 career goals, here's who assisted on them:
Crosby 100
Letang 53
Rust 36
Malkin 31
Dumoulin 25
Kessel 21
Schultz 17
Maatta 9
Simon 9
McCann 9
Marino 9
Hornqvist 8
Sheary 7
Oleksiak 5
Pettersson 5
Matheson 5
Ruhwedel 4
Carter 4
Bonino 3
Sheahan 3
Ceci 3
Kapanen 3
Rodrigues 3
Cole 2
Galchenyuk 2
Daley 2
Wilson 2
Jarry 2
Johnson 2
Bjugstad 2
Blueger 2
Gaunce 1
Sprong 1
Cullen 1
Trotman 1
Kahun 1
Heinen 1
Kunitz 1
Murray 1
Gudbranson 1
Friedman 1

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Here is who scores on his assists:
Crosby 43
Rust 28
Malkin 14
Kessel 11
Letang 9
Sheary 5
Dumoulin 4
McCann 4
Hornqvist 3
Rodrigues 3
Bonino 2
Sheahan 2
Oleksiak 2
Brassard 2
Simon 2
Pettersson 2
Kapanen 2
Carter 2
Schultz 1
Hunwick 1
Pearson 1
Maatta 1
Bjugstad 1
Blueger 1
Tanev 1
Ruhwedel 1
Johnson 1
Joseph 1
Friedman 1
Marino 1
Heinen 1
Zucker 1


Crosby is in on ~49% of these points, which is a voluptuous number...

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:51 pm

Simon has at least 11 points in his career??

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Postby crusherstasiak » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:52 pm

Jake is only good because Sid makes him good, or at least that's what the internet says.
and what the canadian media never fails to mention in the way of a backhand compliment/question that goes something like this: guentzel is so good. people say sidney crosby has a lot to do with it but he's so good on his own,
right, elliot?

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Postby crusherstasiak » Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:54 pm

Simon has at least 11 points in his career??
that's 10 more than i'd have guessed

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Postby meow » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:40 pm

I’m not enamored with Jake’s game, but I don’t get why it’s even up for discussion. Dude produces in droves. Why have a discussion about it?

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Postby mikey » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:43 pm

Because no one should talk about Dominik Simon...

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Postby Gaucho » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:49 pm

Guentzel is basically Simon with soft hands.
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Postby King Colby » Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:24 pm

Weird that most of his goals and assists include his linemates

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Postby King Colby » Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:27 pm

I know you're not saying that mikey... but you can't really produce with guys you're not playing with... it's stupid that it gets used against him.

I would argue mutual benefit for both sid and guentzel.

Also how many games in his career were played with/without sid. I don't recall there being a massive drop off in Jake's production when sid is out

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Postby robbiestoupe » Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:41 pm

Jake has more points than Sid, so maybe 87 is benefitting from 59.

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Postby nocera » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:23 pm



That’s one way to get in I guess.

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Postby mikey » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:51 pm

I know you're not saying that mikey... but you can't really produce with guys you're not playing with... it's stupid that it gets used against him.

I would argue mutual benefit for both sid and guentzel.

Also how many games in his career were played with/without sid. I don't recall there being a massive drop off in Jake's production when sid is out
I'm not saying anything. I was just providing information. In fact, I said that Jake is a standalone talent.

Re: Jake w/o Sid.

https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/jake-g ... n-his-line

37 GP - 16+24=40 +11

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Postby mikey » Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:52 pm

So, Sidney Crosby and Trevor Zegras aren't at the All-Star game...? NHL always killin' it...

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Postby nocera » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:07 pm

After so many years of Sid having a mysterious 1-2 game injury around All Star time maybe the NHL decided to do him a favor and not invite him?

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Postby NTP66 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:30 pm

The ASG hasn’t been fun in a decade or more.

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Postby nocera » Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:48 pm

The ASG hasn’t been fun in a decade or more.
Last fun game was John Scott.

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Postby King Colby » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:17 pm

40 points in 37 games without sid? Case closed.

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Postby meow » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:26 pm

Once you get to puberty, the ASG isn’t for you anymore. Grow up, people

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Postby Gaucho » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:34 pm

I always considered the ASG break an annoyance.

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Postby MR25 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 6:43 pm

I like the skills comp. That's about it

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Postby faftorial » Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:40 pm

I always considered the ASG break an annoyance.
Olympics even more so.

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Postby Lemon Berry Lobster » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:40 pm

Once you get to puberty, the ASG isn’t for you anymore. Grow up, people
Glad you and weenie still get to enjoy it.

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Postby meow » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:04 pm

Shut up

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