mikey's Thread of Penguin Randomness

[NTP66]

If Sheary gets $4m from arbitration I hope the team walks.

[Morkle]

That's a lot of money for him if that's the case.

[mikey]

One year, $4 million and then RFA again for Sheary...? I keep that.

[count2infinity]

Yeah, but you have a giant man-crush on Sheary, if memory serves.

[mikey]

Look, you can say that he has "X career points" but if I'm his agent, I'm just going to say "yeah, they all came in the last 60 games...which is basically his only legitimate NHL experience"...you're back to square...

[mikey]

Yeah, but you have a giant man-crush on Sheary, if memory serves.

You must be mistaking me for someone else...even just reading my posts today, I caution against getting "stuck" with/on him...

[Gaucho]

$4 million sounds about right.

[count2infinity]

Hmmm.... I thought for sure that was you. Oh well. Maybe it was meow. All you m's look the same.

[count2infinity]

And yes... 3.5-4 sounds about in the ballpark.

[mikey]

I think meow and I had the same opinion when he first came up...that he's too good for the minors, but he might be just a half-beat from being an impact NHLer...but ultimately, we could see him breaking either way...and least that's how I recall it...

[Silentom]

shmeguin has the boner for Sheary.

[meow]

Sheary has pop gun scoring ability. You don't notice him until he pots one. And if he doesn't score, you look at the scoresheet and say "well there went 16 minutes of...nothing exciting."

This was my assessment of Sheary awhile back. I also think I said something about him being a good fit if he can bring his game consistently...which he hasn't quite been able to do.

[mikey]

I found one little blurb I said in late 2015 on him:

I watched him close in WBS...he's close for me as having that Gaudreau feel (not quite that upside certainly, but you know these little dynamic players and which ones work and which ones don't)...he's close, but I feel like he's just short...just a half beat short on explosiveness and dynamic-ness...we'll see, I wouldn't be surprised if he clicked up here either...but my gut tells me he's just a bit shy of doing work in the show...I'd love for him to be a gem though...

It's pretty non-committal...he's difficult to get a beat on because he walks that line...

[Pavel Bure]

Give him 3 years 11M and call it a day.

[Kicksave]

Sheary is no way worth that much. I'd be burning up the lines trying to capitalize on his season.

[Algernon]

3-11 sounds about right

[mikey]

I can live with that. Whether Sheary's camp can is another story...

Sheary finished 4th in points per game among LW (min 25 games) last year at 0.87 (71 point pace), placing him 4th in the NHL (Marchand, Panarin, Benn)...

[Lemon Berry Lobster]

Sheary at 4 million makes him expendable, maybe in a trade for that 3C. However Dumo is a must lock up, I'd prefer to see him get a 4 or 5 year deal at least.

[willeyeam]

If Sheary gets $4m from arbitration I hope the team walks.

That's not how it works. If it goes to arbitration, the team wins, or he wins. He's a Pen either way. You don't get to say no

[nocera]

If Sheary gets $4m from arbitration I hope the team walks.

That's not how it works. If it goes to arbitration, the team wins, or he wins. He's a Pen either way. You don't get to say no

(c) Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraphs (a) and (b) above, a Club may exercise the walk-away rights referred to therein not more than one (1) time in a League Year in which the Club has only one (1) salary arbitration award, one (1) time in a League Year in which the Club has two (2) salary arbitration awards, two (2) times in any League Year in which the Club has three (3) salary arbitration awards, two (2) times in any League Year in which the Club has four (4) salary arbitration awards, three (3) times in any League Year in which the Club has five (5) salary arbitration awards and so on. If a Club exercises its walk-away right with respect to a two-year award, the walk-away right shall be deemed to be exercised in the first year of the two-year SPC.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/CBA201 ... 13_CBA.pdf

Or more simply:

A decision must be made within 48 hours of the hearing. When the decision is announced, the team has the right to decline, or "walk away" from the award. If the team exercises this right, the player can declare himself an unrestricted free agent.

https://www.thoughtco.com/nhl-salary-ar ... ed-2778981

[MR25]

I think ulf might be thinking of baseball rules

[Jim]

Sheary at 4 million makes him expendable, maybe in a trade for that 3C. However Dumo is a must lock up, I'd prefer to see him get a 4 or 5 year deal at least.

I realize that 3C is the most important position in all of hockey, but if you move Sheary who are the Pens top 6 LWs?

Hagelin doesn't count...

[mikey]

If Sheary gets $4m from arbitration I hope the team walks.

That's not how it works. If it goes to arbitration, the team wins, or he wins. He's a Pen either way. You don't get to say no

Negative, captain. If it's above a certain AAV, teams have the right to walk...

[Lemon Berry Lobster]

Sheary at 4 million makes him expendable, maybe in a trade for that 3C. However Dumo is a must lock up, I'd prefer to see him get a 4 or 5 year deal at least.

I realize that 3C is the most important position in all of hockey, but if you move Sheary who are the Pens top 6 LWs?

Hagelin doesn't count...

Why doesn't Hagelin count?
Jake-Sid-Horny
Hagelin-Geno-Phil

[count2infinity]

Was I the only one that read "top 6 LWs" and thought, "But only 4 are on the ice/bench at a time..."?