mikey's Thread of Penguin Randomness

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:02 pm

Well, if you're a scout, you better believe you know what you're watching. I don't mind guys having private conversations with folks (maybe former players) that they trust. I talk to scouts about players in situations where we're not "competing", so to speak. Off hand comments like Bartkowski's have no value.

But...and I hate to say this...only about 20 or 25% of the hockey world is actually worth talking to if you're looking for advice like that. There's a lot of bad scouts out there...as we are all acutely aware...but like, it's not bad luck...just some people aren't skilled in this regard...

Postby **dodint** » Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:21 pm

I always assumed pro scouting was a retirement gig for former players that weren't savvy enough to have a real second career.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:23 pm

It is all too often. It's an organization killer.

Postby **shafnutz05** » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:38 pm

I’m mad we have the best goaltending tandem in the league and can’t insulate them long enough to scrape a few wins together

They've bailed the Pens out in countless games and still lost. This team has to be Top 5 in odd man rushes allowed.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:09 pm

Matthew Phillips on waivers today.

Reclaimed by Washington. Smaller Kris Beech...... Kris...Sandbox?

Postby **Gaucho** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:18 pm

Kris Sapling.

Postby **Morkle** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:23 pm

Postby **NTP66** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:24 pm

This really sucks.

Postby **Trip McNeely** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:25 pm

This really sucks.

Hey we could always sign Jake in the offseason!

Postby **NTP66** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:26 pm

This really sucks.
Hey we could always sign Jake in the offseason!

I'd love to know how many times that has happened, honestly. To me, that's a pipe dream. If we can't afford him right now, we're unlikely to be able to afford him in the offseason when he's a UFA.

Postby **nocera** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:27 pm

Those prospects? Kris Beech, Michal Sivek, and Ross Lupaschuk.

Postby **MalkinIsMyHomeboy** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:29 pm

I'm expecting tonight to be Jake's last game as a Penguin

Postby **JC2** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:32 pm

I'll live

Postby **Morkle** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 3:54 pm

Gonna be Kotkaniemi, Drury, and a first from Carolina.

Necas slides back to center for 2nd line C. Kotkaniemi was already playing 4C on Carolina, they don't care about that.

Pens have Drury/Kotkaniemi play 2c/3c until whichever figures it out. Trade Eller.

Postby **Blue Canary** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:03 pm

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

Postby **skullman80** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:03 pm

It sucks, but for the betterment of this team the trade absolutely has to happen. To not do it would be egregiously bad asset management.

Postby **Dickie Dunn** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:03 pm

Those prospects? Kris Beech, Michal Sivek, and Ross Lupaschuk.

I'd rather Frank Stallone.

Postby **skullman80** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:04 pm

I'm expecting tonight to be Jake's last game as a Penguin

Technically valentines day was his last day actually playing as a penguin.

Postby **skullman80** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:06 pm

Also no way he signs back here (if he is going strictly as a rental somewhere) as he will get more money elsewhere than he would here easily.

Loved him being here, loved him as a player, but the situation necessitates him getting traded to start a retool/rebuild.

Postby **DigitalGypsy66** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:17 pm

I'd assume that any significant deal for Jake would have a contract extension in place before he ships out. He ain't coming back here friends.

Postby **skullman80** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:19 pm

It sounds like from what I've read at least that most teams are looking at getting him purely as a rental. No extension in place when the trade happens (or one that is agreed upon etc). Now that could be BS, but that is what is floating around right now.

Postby **nocera** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:23 pm

I'm guessing Vegas.

Postby **Morkle** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:28 pm

It sounds like from what I've read at least that most teams are looking at getting him purely as a rental. No extension in place when the trade happens (or one that is agreed upon etc). Now that could be BS, but that is what is floating around right now.

I wonder if most teams deem him as someone who needs a premier center to be successful.

Postby **nocera** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:31 pm

I also have serious doubts that a team sends us a 1st, young NHL player, and prospects for a known rental.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Mar 05, 2024 4:35 pm

Someone just sent me an insane return for Guentzel that they think is out there. I said no way we're getting all that. Teams can't be giving a second line guy that's moving the needle in this deal I don't think.

I think there's a "take a chance young roster guy" and a 19 or 20 year old deal in here and then the pick reacts to the quality of those A and B pieces...