Official fire johnston thread - join the crew

Postby **Sarcastic** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:34 pm

Can someone confirm that Geno has now been scoreless in 12 straight games? Someone, somewhere, mentioned it.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:48 pm

Yes, no points in two this year; no points in the 5-game loss to New York; no points in the last five of the regular season...he had two assists vs. Arizona on 3/28...3 points in 17 games since 3/7/15...

edog was right...

Postby **Craig** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:13 pm

I need to find that guy and appologize. Is he more likely to be in an impatient mental facility or substance abuse facility?

Postby **MalkinIsMyHomeboy** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:15 pm

maybe instead of a good regular season team and a bad playoff team we're turning into a bad regular season team and a good playoff team, ala the LA Kings

or maybe we just suck

Postby **Craig** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:16 pm

Dont bring me into this. You suck.

Also, inpatient. Booo my typing.

Postby **Jim** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:18 pm

I like how there's a fire Johnston thread within 2 games.

Maybe we are worse than LGP (or maybe it's just Godric)
Hlinka made it 4 games into his second season before getting canned. It's not unprecedented.
Well, it's not really 2 games. Has there been improvement since last December? I can attribute some of the problems to injuries we had, but come on. If you can't get Sid and Geno and Letang and Horny and now Kessel to KILL on the PP, you're not doing it right.

The problem is telling Crosby and Malkin to stop doing what THEY want to do and do what the coach tells them to do.

The question is: Is there a coach that Crosby and Malkin would actually listen to? A second question is: Would the Pens actually sign a coach that would try?

Postby **Rocco** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:35 pm

I like how there's a fire Johnston thread within 2 games.

Maybe we are worse than LGP (or maybe it's just Godric)
Hlinka made it 4 games into his second season before getting canned. It's not unprecedented.
Well, it's not really 2 games. Has there been improvement since last December? I can attribute some of the problems to injuries we had, but come on. If you can't get Sid and Geno and Letang and Horny and now Kessel to KILL on the PP, you're not doing it right.
The problem is telling Crosby and Malkin to stop doing what THEY want to do and do what the coach tells them to do.

The question is: Is there a coach that Crosby and Malkin would actually listen to? A second question is: Would the Pens actually sign a coach that would try?

Mike Babcock. But the Pens couldn't keep Bylsma for another year to wait for Babcock to finish his contract.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:39 pm

There's a fine balance with star players and coaches...but is there any indication that Crosby and Malkin are these coaching scofflaws...? Since HCMJ has been here, Malkin has played the best defensive hockey of his career...Crosby seems very coachable for a star player and in my travels around the league (in terms of conversation), I've not heard anything of note about him being uncoachable or anything...

Postby **MR25** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:02 pm

Mike Babcock wouldn't turn things around immediately. I don't know why people think that.

Postby **dodint** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 3:06 pm

Louis Vuitton sticks out like a sore thumb on that ranking.

Postby **Algernon** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:04 pm

Scotty bowman

I hear he's in the best shape of his life

Postby **dodint** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:28 pm

The fact that nobody cared to point out that I posted in the completely wrong thread saddens me.

Postby **MalkinIsMyHomeboy** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:30 pm

The fact that nobody cared to point out that I posted in the completely wrong thread saddens me.

I assumed you wanted him to coach for us

Postby **dodint** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:35 pm

Couldn't hurt.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:23 pm

I was gonna reply just so you couldn't delete it. But a blockade is an act of war after all...

Postby **Algernon** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:27 am

Hire Dave tippett

NAOW

Postby **Kicksave** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:20 am

Hire Dave tippett

NAOW

You can't hire a coach from another team.

YouTube · Postby **mikey** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:23 am

Boy, ya think the Pens stars are under-utilized now...wait til you see Tippett, he frowns on forward passing...

Postby **Morkle** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:08 am

I'm just over the entire system. Dating back to the end of last year - the other teams figured the system out, and the Pens are still getting punished for it.

That all being said - next guy up would be Tocchet and he can't even figure out the PP, so outside of voice, I can't imagine he'll be any better.

Postby **columbia** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:09 am

Boy, ya think the Pens stars are under-utilized now...wait til you see Tippett, he frowns on forward passing...

Postby **llipgh2** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:17 am

I'm not jumping on the "Fire HCMJ" bandwagon yet.

Mike Darney made a lot of points on Twitter this AM that I actually was thinking about.

The defense is suspect, the team has had player turnover,incoming players learning the system, Maatta needs to get back to where he was before his shoulder issues, perhaps Cole is being expected to do too much...

However, if we are 10-15 games in and the team is continuing to trend downward, then it may be time to shake things up.

Postby **shmenguin** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:35 am

The player turnover element is dubious considering how our bottom 6 has looked pretty decent, and that's where the new guys live. Also, the other new guy from Toronto looks like a stud.

In a nutshell, our 2nd line is a bowl of nothing, our defense is full of guys who aren't good and aren't expected to be good, and our coach doesn't know who to put on the ice at any given moment.

That much we know. And then you add this theory about his system and things get really scary.

Postby **MalkinIsMyHomeboy** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:38 am

most of the new guys (Kessel, Bonino, Sprong, Cullen, Porter) have looked solid for far. Crosby has no excuse

Postby **Morkle** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:39 am

I'm getting tired of seeing the guys getting paid a ton of money produce like they're being paid 4-5mm.

Postby **Jim** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:52 am

Hire Dave tippett

NAOW
You can't hire a coach from another team.

Can you trade for him, or any such coach/management?