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No I'm not. I didn't count it. Why would I?
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They have 1,580,001 and 0, 1, or 2 roster spots to fill with that. Whether its internal or external, that's where they're at.
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King Colby wrote:No I'm not. I didn't count it. Why would I?
According to NHLnumbers they count it against the cap.
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Hugo Stiglitz wrote:
King Colby wrote:No I'm not. I didn't count it. Why would I?
According to NHLnumbers they count it against the cap.
If he's on the team. Don't ask me why all those sites have him on the team. It's unlikely unless they carry 8 D.
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King Colby wrote:
Hugo Stiglitz wrote:
King Colby wrote:No I'm not. I didn't count it. Why would I?
According to NHLnumbers they count it against the cap.
If he's on the team. Don't ask me why all those sites have him on the team. It's unlikely unless they carry 8 D.
Is his contract a one or two-way contract?
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What's Dumoulin's waiver eligibility?
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Hugo Stiglitz wrote:
King Colby wrote:
Hugo Stiglitz wrote:
King Colby wrote:No I'm not. I didn't count it. Why would I?
According to NHLnumbers they count it against the cap.
If he's on the team. Don't ask me why all those sites have him on the team. It's unlikely unless they carry 8 D.
Is his contract a one or two-way contract?
Not sure, but it's inconsequential. He only makes 600k so if he clears waivers and makes it to WBS, there will be no cap hit. If he doesn't, he's somebody else's problem.
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columbia wrote:What's Dumoulin's waiver eligibility?
No longer exempt.
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Dumo needs waivers to go down.

I never liked Cullen, still don't...but if he's like a fourth line center or wing or extra, it's fine...it's not like our forwards will never get hurt again or anything...
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Cullen is still pretty solid despite his age. He's strong on faceoffs and adds a scoring threat on the fourth line. I'd still prefer to see Sundqvist get a real shot, but he may still get to play wing. Again, with Fehr out for a few months, Cullen is a good stop-gap.
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beachboy76 wrote:Why is everyone bent out of shape over this signing? I'm assuming another move is coming, hence why Cullen was signed.

The guy's faceoff % over the years speaks for itself. He scores 100x more points than any of our fourth liners in the last decade. (sarcasm, but could actually be true)

His advanced stats are fantastic, and the hiring of Ventura is really showing with our recent additions. With the depth they've assembled, they can really spread out the icetime and hopefully lessen the wear and tear on players over the course of the season. (Lord knows we could do without the injuries we've had)

He still has speed at his age and answers the question that many had about who could kill penalties on this team.

Speed, faceoff ability, penalty killer, more offensive talent than we've had on the 4th line in quite some time, good analytics, cheap, and apparently a good locker room guy. I find a hard time disliking this move.
It's a good move as it gives us another good faceoff guy, and even at 38, he still has some speed.

It's a questionable move when the team has neglected giving any real shot to young forwards to make the team, and after the GM saying this offseason they didn't want to sign as many 1-way deals so they could give some young guys a chance....well, with all forwards healthy, your lineup may look something like this:

Kunitz-Crosby-Kessel
Perron-Malkin-Hornqvist
Plotnikov-Bonino-Fehr
Dupuis-Cullen-Bennett

Deep, yeah, that's a pretty deep forward unit. But so much for Sundqvist getting much of a shot this year, or a guy like Wilson or Rust getting a shot to make the club.

I have no idea if other teams had interest in Matt Cullen. If they did, ok then, make the move. If not, why not bring him into camp on a tryout and let him and Sundqvist battle for a spot.

For overall team depth, I like it. For pretty much assuring young guys are injury callup only with no change to make the team out of camp. I don't.
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FLPensFan wrote:
beachboy76 wrote:Why is everyone bent out of shape over this signing? I'm assuming another move is coming, hence why Cullen was signed.

The guy's faceoff % over the years speaks for itself. He scores 100x more points than any of our fourth liners in the last decade. (sarcasm, but could actually be true)

His advanced stats are fantastic, and the hiring of Ventura is really showing with our recent additions. With the depth they've assembled, they can really spread out the icetime and hopefully lessen the wear and tear on players over the course of the season. (Lord knows we could do without the injuries we've had)

He still has speed at his age and answers the question that many had about who could kill penalties on this team.

Speed, faceoff ability, penalty killer, more offensive talent than we've had on the 4th line in quite some time, good analytics, cheap, and apparently a good locker room guy. I find a hard time disliking this move.
It's a good move as it gives us another good faceoff guy, and even at 38, he still has some speed.

It's a questionable move when the team has neglected giving any real shot to young forwards to make the team, and after the GM saying this offseason they didn't want to sign as many 1-way deals so they could give some young guys a chance....well, with all forwards healthy, your lineup may look something like this:

Kunitz-Crosby-Kessel
Perron-Malkin-Hornqvist
Plotnikov-Bonino-Fehr
Dupuis-Cullen-Bennett

Deep, yeah, that's a pretty deep forward unit. But so much for Sundqvist getting much of a shot this year, or a guy like Wilson or Rust getting a shot to make the club.

I have no idea if other teams had interest in Matt Cullen. If they did, ok then, make the move. If not, why not bring him into camp on a tryout and let him and Sundqvist battle for a spot.

For overall team depth, I like it. For pretty much assuring young guys are injury callup only with no change to make the team out of camp. I don't.
Plotnikov and Bennett still need to actually make the team. While I give some benefit of the doubt to Bennett, neither are locks.
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Honestly, even though I made a comment about it earlier, it's not like they're holding back young talent. Rust stinks, Wilson is just whatever, another year in WBS would serve him well. Sundqvist has yet to play North American professional hockey save for a cup of coffee late last year. He should certainly start in WBS. Everyone else is nothing.
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Even though I don't often agree with what he writes, Ryan Wilson's blog on Cullen is pretty darn informative. I felt good about the signing, but now I feel even better about it.
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Hugo Stiglitz wrote:Source of the post Even though I don't often agree with what he writes
Aren't you the Sutter guy from LGP? I would think that you agreed with mostly what he wrote? :lol:
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This is a depth move for sure... It sucks for those that want to see Sunqvist play appreciable minutes, but the dude has been in the NHL for years, and will be a decent 4th liner/scratch for a team that has had injury issues in the past. I'm cool with the move... don't really like it, don't really hate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ
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Kicksave wrote:
Hugo Stiglitz wrote:Source of the post Even though I don't often agree with what he writes
Aren't you the Sutter guy from LGP? I would think that you agreed with mostly what he wrote? :lol:
LOL that's about the only other thing I agreed with him about. And hey, for all the flak I caught for my views on Sutter, a lot of people seemed to come around :D
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King Colby wrote:Honestly, even though I made a comment about it earlier, it's not like they're holding back young talent. Rust stinks, Wilson is just whatever, another year in WBS would serve him well. Sundqvist has yet to play North American professional hockey save for a cup of coffee late last year. He should certainly start in WBS. Everyone else is nothing.
This is the proper reaction.
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columbia wrote:
King Colby wrote:Honestly, even though I made a comment about it earlier, it's not like they're holding back young talent. Rust stinks, Wilson is just whatever, another year in WBS would serve him well. Sundqvist has yet to play North American professional hockey save for a cup of coffee late last year. He should certainly start in WBS. Everyone else is nothing.
This is the proper reaction.
Heh...I was kind of thinking this too, but wouldn't have phrased it quite so harshly. It might make sense to let the kids play if there were legit prospects waiting in WBS, but unfortunately, there just don't seem to be. From what little I've seen of the current crop last pre-season and regular season, Sundqvist looks like the only forward prospect with a ceiling above 4th-line filler.
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Sundqvist can still make the opening day roster. It's not that big off deal.
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I still think that sundqvist should have a spot to lose going into camp.
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Craig wrote:I still think that sundqvist should have a spot to lose going into camp.
There has been talk about him converting to wing. Fourth line possibilities:

Sundqvist-Cullen-Bennett
Plotnikov-Cullen-Sundqvist
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Just for argument's sake (since there is no chance in hell this team remains healthy), who is scratched in that scenario?
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Gaucho wrote:Just for argument's sake (since there is no chance in hell this team remains healthy), who is scratched in that scenario?
Kessel
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At least it's not Craig Adams
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